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Post by Clipper on Oct 7, 2022 22:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by Atticus Pizzaballa on Oct 8, 2022 9:22:25 GMT -5
Just think of the cost to farmers and construction companies when they have to convert all there vehicles to all electric. Someday we might even have all electric lawn mowers. And what will generators run on the lights go out. Will aircraft and ships have to be all electric and what about all the various sized boats many people own when they must be all electric. Now tell me how will we even launch another spacecraft into outer space.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 8, 2022 12:31:34 GMT -5
Conversion of grain harvest to all-electric would be a monumental task. Drive from Minneapolis (Mill City) to Yellowstone and ride a bus from western Minnesota to Oklahoma City (I have done both) to get a feel for the scope of our grain harvest. Horizon to horizon wheat fields are the norm, interrupted by small towns where the tallest structures are giant cylinders next to the railroad tracks which store wheat awaiting transport to the mills. That stored wheat supplies our country and many others with flour for the next year.
Harvest crews start in Texas when the earliest wheat ripens and end in Canada about 3 months later. The combines run in the fields 24x7. Trucks bring in crews and fuel to run the machines and other trucks haul out the wheat. Grain dryers and milling machines run for the next 12 months so everyone can have toast for their eggs, tortilla wraps for lunch and fresh baked rolls with dinner.
Electric combines would need to be designed with battery packs with enough watt-hour capacity run for a shift and a recharge rate of 2 shifts. Each combine would require 3 battery packs. Ideally each battery pack would for a full season.
I think all of the above can be done. I think to do it in the projected timeline would require a project on the scale and cost of the Manhattan Project. I don't see our willingness to do that. It takes longer than that just to get approval for one new electricity generating plant using existing technologies.
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Post by BHU on Oct 8, 2022 13:41:41 GMT -5
We'll never totally eliminate internal combustion engines. It's just not feasible, at least in our lifetime. Any govt. sponsered initiatives to promote EV's will be eliminated anyway with budget cuts if Crime Boss Trump & his fringe right wing mob win the majority. They've bern talking about weaning ourselves off Middle East terrorist oil suppliers since the oil embargo of the 70's but politicians owned by big oil have taken care of that idea. And as a matter of fact half of Congress is bought off & paid for by Saudi Arabia with campaign contributions & outright bribery. That's how MBS, along with Trump intervening on his behalf got away with having the WP reporter murdered.
EV's will never be allowed to take over the share of gas & diesel engines.
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Post by Clipper on Oct 8, 2022 13:55:48 GMT -5
Conversion of grain harvest to all-electric would be a monumental task. Drive from Minneapolis (Mill City) to Yellowstone and ride a bus from western Minnesota to Oklahoma City (I have done both) to get a feel for the scope of our grain harvest. Horizon to horizon wheat fields are the norm, interrupted by small towns where the tallest structures are giant cylinders next to the railroad tracks which store wheat awaiting transport to the mills. That stored wheat supplies our country and many others with flour for the next year. Harvest crews start in Texas when the earliest wheat ripens and end in Canada about 3 months later. The combines run in the fields 24x7. Trucks bring in crews and fuel to run the machines and other trucks haul out the wheat. Grain dryers and milling machines run for the next 12 months so everyone can have toast for their eggs, tortilla wraps for lunch and fresh baked rolls with dinner. Electric combines would need to be designed with battery packs with enough watt-hour capacity run for a shift and a recharge rate of 2 shifts. Each combine would require 3 battery packs. Ideally each battery pack would for a full season. I think all of the above can be done. I think to do it in the projected timeline would require a project on the scale and cost of the Manhattan Project. I don't see our willingness to do that. It takes longer than that just to get approval for one new electricity generating plant using existing technologies. Farm equipment, construction equipment and over the road trucks are not going to get far on a charge. The batteries in a tractor trailer would be significant enough in weight to lower the legal payload that they could put in the trailer to meet the legal 80,000lb maximum. Most freight charges are calculated by weight of the load and miles traveled to destination. |
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