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Post by Clipper on Feb 16, 2022 0:07:09 GMT -5
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Post by Atticus Pizzaballa on Feb 16, 2022 12:26:18 GMT -5
It all comes down to form and matter when any Priest or Deacon administers any of the Sacraments. In Baptism the matter is water( as what was used to Baptize Christ) the form is the words used by the minister. The use of the " I " signifies the fact that the minister stands in for Christ when initiating the Sacrament. It is not the minister who does the Baptism it is in all actuality Christ. Latin term is in persona Christi ( in the person of Christ.
Another example of matter is the bread and wine used by the priest. The words of consecration announced by the minister changes them into the body and blood of Christ. I heard of a priest many years ago in Missouri who wanted to say a more relevant Mass and used beer and pretzels. LOL that doesn't work. Christ used bread and wine.
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Post by Atticus Pizzaballa on Feb 16, 2022 12:36:33 GMT -5
Her is a true story. At the reception of her son's ordination as Bishop his Mother was so happy she gave a small speech. In it she said we always knew that someday our son would be ordained a Bishop because at his Baptism we used milk.
Well now that little act invalidated everything. He had to be Baptized, Confirmed and Ordained a Priest then consecrated a Bishop all over agaid since at the beginning he was never really Baptized. The improper matter was used regardless of the form( words ) LOL
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