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Post by concerned on Feb 16, 2008 13:48:47 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=sloginBlack voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem’s 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama. That anomaly was not unique. In fact, a review by The New York Times of the unofficial results reported on primary night found about 80 election districts among the city’s 6,106 where Mr. Obama supposedly did not receive even one vote, including cases where he ran a respectable race in a nearby district. City election officials this week said that their formal review of the results, which will not be completed for weeks, had confirmed some major discrepancies between the vote totals reported publicly — and unofficially — on primary night and the actual tally on hundreds of voting machines across the city. In the Harlem district, for instance, where the primary night returns suggested a 141 to 0 sweep by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, the vote now stands at 261 to 136. In an even more heavily black district in Brooklyn — where the vote on primary night was recorded as 118 to 0 for Mrs. Clinton — she now barely leads, 118 to 116.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 16, 2008 16:27:40 GMT -5
Hmmm, maybe all those vote thieves that worked for Bush in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004 have been hired by Hillary in 2008?
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 16, 2008 17:04:40 GMT -5
perhaps it was a voting machine error like what happened in the whitestown town supervisor race a couple years ago?
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Post by frankcor on Feb 16, 2008 18:13:26 GMT -5
Oh yeah, when a hundred votes disappeared? Ooops! If I recall, it was a stuck wheel on the vote counter that works like an odometer in your car.
Could anyone tell me why it takes a half-hour to tally all the votes on election night, but then it takes 2-3 weeks to re-count the votes? Should I be grateful that elections commissioners don't also run the school systems?
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 16, 2008 19:13:43 GMT -5
I read somewhere that many people tell poll takers they'll vote for someone ... especially for a minority such as a black or a woman ... but then not do it. Has something to do with a public sentiment expressed to a poll taker versus a private sentiment exercised behind the curtain in the voting booth. Also, I think there has historically been a problem of getting the black vote out to the polls. So, while initially their preferences are logged when contacted in a poll, the votes are not forthcoming when they don't don't actually vote.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 17, 2008 1:21:01 GMT -5
Well, with a re-count, they want to make sure they have an accurate count. So they'll be extra careful. Plus, with a re-count, usually absentee ballots are counted, which takes time to process and verify. That's the best explanation I can conjure up. Anyone have anything better?
Dave, That's why I never pay attention to the polls. Well, the last time I payed attention to a political poll was in 2004, when I went to bed thinking I would wake up to a new president and have to eat my words. In the end all that matters are the actual votes. So far, Obama appears to be in the lead. I hope he maintains that lead. Though, if hrc wins the democratic ticket, McCain will have an easier shot at winning, I hope. I have a $500 bet with a law school friend of mine. It's a bet I hope I lose. But my prediction is that hrc will win merely because she's a woman and her husband is still very popular -- despite his many transgressions. As I said, I'll be happy to rob a bank so that I can pay that bet to my friend.
Before the women on this board call me a male chauvinist, I'm not against hrc because she's a woman. In fact I'm a long time supporter of a notion that if a man can do it so can a woman. I hate her platform, her record, her politics, and her personal agenda. I have no problem voting for a woman or a black man. I don't base my vote on a candidate's sex or race, just their credentials and their platforms.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 17, 2008 8:43:36 GMT -5
Yeah, right swimmy. But just like Dave pointed out, we know once you get behind the curtain in that voting booth, you're gonna pull the lever for Hillary.
LOL!
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