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Post by bobbbiez on Sept 4, 2013 14:19:34 GMT -5
 Getting up this morn, having my coffee while reading the newspaper I got a big chuckle to start my day off reading an AP story concerning a black employer being sued and having to pay out damages of $30,000 to his black employee for calling her the "N" word. Something I have long stated was ridiculous that it's offensive if a white person uses it towards a black person but it was fully acceptable if it was a black person using the "N' word toward others in his own race. And before you tried to say it all depends on how the word is used toward another let me clear that up. I was born and raised in W.Utica, went to Kernan School and 50 % of my friends and neighbors were blacks. To this day many who are still alive are still my friends who I associate with. There isn't a day that goes by in my neighborhood in W.Utica that the "N" word isn't used by my black neighbors in one form or another. Can't tell you how many hundreds of times during arguments between black with black that I have heard these words being spoken "black person, I'm gonna beat the sh*t out of your black a**" or black in a fight with a white person " this black person is going to beat your white cracka a**." That's a fact and I am positive you all have heard the same. All I can say is it's about damn time that the black folks in our communities who have bi*ched about us whites using the "N" word have to honor the same rules that they expect from the white community. As I said many times before "long over do." I do agree with this black manager in his defense who stated "I come from a different time." My black friends and I were brought up differently then the wimps of today. We were taught to be strong. We were taught not to sweat the small things. We were taught that "sticks and stones can break our bones but words will never hurt us." We, black and white, could discuss issues and disagree with each other and not be labeled a racist. We could have arguments and call each other names such as black person, white cracka, amongst others and not see any as a derogatory slur. Once the argument was over we still remained friends, played and hung out together. Those friendships lasting a life time. The wimps of today, blacks and whites, with their thin skins will never ever share the same closeness between each other. 
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Post by Clipper on Sept 4, 2013 17:28:54 GMT -5
While I agree with you BZ about the sticks and stones thing, I just don't think it is necessary to use any derogatory ethnic references when speaking. Have you gotten the papers yet? I filed a lawsuit because you make remarks about Canucks, hahaha!   Seriously, why is it necessary to bring that ethbnic crap into conversation at all. I had a guy that worked for me at Griffiss that insisted on calling Italians greaseballs and orientals gooks. He made the mistake of calling a Mexican staff sergeant a spic one day and damn near lost his job and pension. His mouth earned him several hours of sensitivity training at the personnel office and a letter of reprimand in his permanent personnel folder. |
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Post by bobbbiez on Sept 4, 2013 20:09:01 GMT -5
I am far from being a prude and I do remember in my time when no one took offense over just words. You know Clip I don't believe for one moment that in the heat of the moment, when tipsy or in a conversation or in telling a joke everyone hasn't used a derogatory slur in their life time. That's all bull sh*t. No one is free of that guilt. Even as a kid I laughed at Polish jokes and I still laugh at all the Polish jokes and have never taken offense to any of them because if I dish it out I'm big enough to take my own medicine. Not so with the blacks when it comes to the "N" word but only get upset when whites are using it. It is very refreshing to see through this law suit that they now will have to take their own medicine. Now I anxiously await a law suit when a black is sued for calling a white person a "white cracka." I'm sure that definitely is in the arisen. Mark my words.
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Post by Clipper on Sept 4, 2013 21:23:18 GMT -5
Heck yeah. Most of us have used ethnic slurs in our lifetime. I was brought up in a family where it would get me a severe reprimand and deep disdain from my mom and dad, but I still spoke those words on occasion. As I grew older, I grew to realize that skin color and ethnicity has little to do with a persons inner self or their worth as a person. It becomes a matter of putting forth a concerted effort to simply banish those words from our vocabulary. When you banish the words from your speech, and put color aside, you tend to realize that those ethnic slurs and references bring nothing of value to a conversation other than to reflect poorly on the person using them. A lesson hard learned by Paula Deen, one of my favorite TV personalities. While I certainly think that the case was blown out of proportion, and the network and sponsors really over reacted, the fact remains that if she had NOT used the words, she would still be smiling and cooking on Food Network, and making money from her endorsements of the products like Smithfield hams.
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Post by bobbbiez on Sept 4, 2013 22:49:29 GMT -5
I am who I am and have no problems conversing and socializing with people of all races, and ethnic groups who all know I say it as it is and I have been told by most that is the reason they enjoy being in my presence. No phoniness, altering here or was there ever. Don't see any reason why I should sensor my vocabulary to please others. If I ever offended anyone they get my apology immediately but those that know me accept me completely the way I am and vise versa. To me that's all that counts. What happened to Paula Deen was all crap and I believe most people felt the same. Few spoke up or came to her defense because it wasn't the politically correct thing to do and for no other reason. Paula is human like all the rest of us and none of us, black or white, are saints in that issue by any means. The old saying "those without sin cast the first stone" was thought up for exactly this reason. 
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Post by Clipper on Sept 5, 2013 8:52:22 GMT -5
There is no doubt that what happened to Paula Deen was a crock of Sh*t. Hell, they dismissed the lawsuit, but it is a little late. They have already destroyed her career. The fact still remains. If she had NOT ever used the ethnic slur, she would not have been in put in a place of admitting to it in court and she would still be making her ooey gooey butter cake on the Food Network "Y'all."
Everybody offends somebody at some point in life. I simply have grown to believe that nothing is gained by using demeaning terminology to refer to a person's ethnicity. The first amendment still allows you to speak out, and thus far I don't think anyone has been arrested for calling someone a derogatory name. Do what ya gotta do kiddo. Sorry, but ya can't do it here. I DID put that word on the censored word list, LOL.
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Post by bobbbiez on Sept 5, 2013 11:07:13 GMT -5
There is no doubt that what happened to Paula Deen was a crock of Sh*t. Hell, they dismissed the lawsuit, but it is a little late. They have already destroyed her career. The fact still remains. If she had NOT ever used the ethnic slur, she would not have been in put in a place of admitting to it in court and she would still be making her ooey gooey butter cake on the Food Network "Y'all." Everybody offends somebody at some point in life. I simply have grown to believe that nothing is gained by using demeaning terminology to refer to a person's ethnicity. The first amendment still allows you to speak out, and thus far I don't think anyone has been arrested for calling someone a derogatory name. Do what ya gotta do kiddo. Sorry, but ya can't do it here. I DID put that word on the censored word list, LOL. Jeez, I'm just gonna have to follow suit of my black brothers/sisters and take you to court for violating my rights by not allowing me to the first amendment. LMAO! |
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Post by Clipper on Sept 5, 2013 11:18:54 GMT -5
The lawsuit will be settled out of court when you stop making cracks about Canucks and I delete that word from the censored word list, hahaha. I think you should refer to RJ and myself as "fine and handsome French Canadian gentlemen" rather than Canucks, but that is strictly my own opinion, lol. Of course there IS that little problem with ONE of us smelling a little funky the last couple of days.  |
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Post by Ralph on Sept 5, 2013 16:07:42 GMT -5
This is a little dated, but Rev. Manning does have a point.
Why are we all talking about "the n word" when we know exactly what it is?
That stupid term enough is insulting and insulting even more to ones intelligence when we try and hide it inside quotations because is is supposedly taboo to utter it.
Sometimes trying to be anti-racist is more insulting than being racist, even when you're not.
The Politically Correct world leans to far to one side.
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Post by bobbbiez on Sept 5, 2013 20:52:35 GMT -5
AMEN! Point proven. WTG Whoopi! She calls a spade and spade and always said it the way it is. That is why I have always liked and respected that woman. No phoniness in her and I strive to be the same.
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Post by bobbbiez on Sept 5, 2013 20:54:44 GMT -5
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Post by bobbbiez on Sept 5, 2013 21:12:01 GMT -5
There is no doubt that what happened to Paula Deen was a crock of Sh*t. Hell, they dismissed the lawsuit, but it is a little late. They have already destroyed her career. The fact still remains. If she had NOT ever used the ethnic slur, she would not have been in put in a place of admitting to it in court and she would still be making her ooey gooey butter cake on the Food Network "Y'all." Everybody offends somebody at some point in life. I simply have grown to believe that nothing is gained by using demeaning terminology to refer to a person's ethnicity. The first amendment still allows you to speak out, and thus far I don't think anyone has been arrested for calling someone a derogatory name. Do what ya gotta do kiddo. Sorry, but ya can't do it here. I DID put that word on the censored word list, LOL. Shame on you. If you're going to censor ethnic slurs then ya forgot one........"white cracka"......a known derogatory slur toward white people. Now be fair kiddo. What's good for one is good for the other. |
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Post by dave on Sept 6, 2013 21:03:36 GMT -5
There is no doubt that what happened to Paula Deen was a crock of Sh*t. Hell, they dismissed the lawsuit, but it is a little late. They have already destroyed her career. The fact still remains. If she had NOT ever used the ethnic slur, she would not have been in put in a place of admitting to it in court and she would still be making her ooey gooey butter cake on the Food Network "Y'all." Everybody offends somebody at some point in life. I simply have grown to believe that nothing is gained by using demeaning terminology to refer to a person's ethnicity. The first amendment still allows you to speak out, and thus far I don't think anyone has been arrested for calling someone a derogatory name. Do what ya gotta do kiddo. Sorry, but ya can't do it here. I DID put that word on the censored word list, LOL. Shame on you. If you're going to censor ethnic slurs then ya forgot one........"white cracka"......a known derogatory slur toward white people. Now be fair kiddo. What's good for one is good for the other. But Bz, there IS a difference. Many black people are offended when called the N-word by a white cracka when tempers are flaring. But I don't think I've ever met anyone who was offended when called a white cracka. I'll call a few white friends, ask and get back to you. |
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Post by dave on Sept 6, 2013 21:09:25 GMT -5
Well, maybe you're right, Bobbbie. I found two people who said they'd be offended if called a white cracker. One is a young man originally from North Carolina, who speaks exactly like the cartoon character Foghorn Leghorn. The other is a older fellow who says he's Indonesian and would rather be called a wheat thin.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Sept 6, 2013 22:07:15 GMT -5
Well, maybe you're right, Bobbbie. I found two people who said they'd be offended if called a white cracker. One is a young man originally from North Carolina, who speaks exactly like the cartoon character Foghorn Leghorn. The other is a older fellow who says he's Indonesian and would rather be called a wheat thin. Sitting in a room by myself laughing. |
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Getting up this morn, having my coffee while reading the newspaper I got a big chuckle to start my day off reading an AP story concerning a black employer being sued and having to pay out damages of $30,000 to his black employee for calling her the "N" word. Something I have long stated was ridiculous that it's offensive if a white person uses it towards a black person but it was fully acceptable if it was a black person using the "N' word toward others in his own race. And before you tried to say it all depends on how the word is used toward another let me clear that up. I was born and raised in W.Utica, went to Kernan School and 50 % of my friends and neighbors were blacks. To this day many who are still alive are still my friends who I associate with. There isn't a day that goes by in my neighborhood in W.Utica that the "N" word isn't used by my black neighbors in one form or another. Can't tell you how many hundreds of times during arguments between black with black that I have heard these words being spoken "black person, I'm gonna beat the sh*t out of your black a**" or black in a fight with a white person " this black person is going to beat your white cracka a**." That's a fact and I am positive you all have heard the same.
