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Post by chris on May 26, 2013 7:29:39 GMT -5
I just heard on the radio an announcement made that NY is passing a law that all bowling Alleys must post a sign in their establishments that they can not (should not) wear bowling shoes out side. REALLY? Aside from being stupid waste of government workings they are becoming fast and furious into changing or trying to take away any of our freedoms. You can file this one along with the large drinks law.
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Post by Clipper on May 26, 2013 10:19:39 GMT -5
I wonder if that is actually true Chris. I tried to run it by fact check and got nothing back. I read it somewhere in the last couple of days too, but never followed up on it. I just laughed it off. Is it to be a NY State law? Sounds like something that Bloomberg or Cuomo would come up with.
Most bowling alleys already have a sign similar to that posted. They simply don't want the lanes damaged by tracking grit, tar, gum, or other foreign substances onto the approaches or into the seating area in the pits. Nor do they want their rental shoes outside getting wet, or worse yet, stolen. What the hell are we coming to when the government wants to pass laws concerning where we can wear bowling shoes? MY shoes belong to me. I don't wear rented shoes. MY shoes will go wherever I care to wear them. If I want to wear them to the beach I will.
Seems like nothing short of ridiculous to legislate such a thing. Anyone that bowls knows better than to wear their bowling shoes outside of the bowling alley. My bowling shoes cost $130. I damn sure am not going to wear them like a pair of cheap flip flops.
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Post by Clipper on May 26, 2013 10:29:19 GMT -5
At the rate that government is increasing their invasion into private matters, private decisions, and private lives, it is only a matter of time before they legislate which hand we wipe our ass with. They would create government finger sniffers and post them outside public bathrooms to catch violators and write tickets. First offense, a ticket. Second offense they would cut off your right hand so you would be forced to comply. Some cultures already use only their left hand to wipe and their right hand to eat. I guess that makes sense when they pick up and eat their food with their hands and fingers. Not so for those of us that use normal utensils.
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Post by clarencebunsen on May 26, 2013 11:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by Clipper on May 26, 2013 11:52:24 GMT -5
Even with bowling center proprietors supporting the law, it is ridiculous. If a bowling alley owner wants to limit his liabilty, let him put up a sign. No law is necessary. The shoes may be slippery when wet if walking on a smooth floor, but try to slide on the approach with a wet slide shoe and it will stop you dead and you will do a face plant on the lane.
Just one more over reaching piece of nonsensical and unnecessary legislation taking up the time of the law makers when they could be addressing legislation that might actually make a significant difference.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 12:53:19 GMT -5
They don't look very fashionable for wearing outside of bowling. Unless of course you carry a matching ball with you and cap.
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Post by Clipper on May 26, 2013 19:38:09 GMT -5
There have been instances of college kids stealing the shoes and wearing them as regular footwear as some sort of fad fashion statement. I can't see where they would be very comfortable. The shoes most bowling alleys buy to use for rentals have zero arch support and probably would not wear well on blacktop or cement over the long haul.
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Post by chris on May 26, 2013 21:11:39 GMT -5
supposedly the reason was cause they are slippery on the bottom (no traction) and you could hurt yourself. If they spent more time on this dumb stuff and got to work on real and necessary important stuff then maybe they wouldn't have such a bad track record in the courts.
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Post by Clipper on May 26, 2013 21:19:16 GMT -5
Bowling shoes have two different soles. One is slippery (the left shoe for a right handed bowler) that is called the slide shoe because that is the foot that you end your approach sliding on that foot to deliver the ball. The other shoe is a rougher textured sole that is not as slick. They may be slippery walking on a smooth floor, but if they get wet, the slide shoe will stick and will not slide on the hardwood approaches, and when it sticks rather than sliding, the person can fall face first and be seriously injured.
I agree Chris. It is nonsense to legislate such an issue.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2013 12:14:35 GMT -5
I can't bowl worth crap. Tried it twice but to embarassing. I remember swinging the ball backward to get ready to drop it forward but somehow fell out of my hand and kept rolling backward and hit a table. Another time I ended up jumping into the next lave. And how does one get out of the gutter or is it bunker!
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Post by Clipper on May 27, 2013 12:41:09 GMT -5
It is a skill that takes a lot of practice to become adept at. I started bowling in my teens and have bowled ever since. At one time I was bowling 5 nights a week. My bowling has peaked over the years with a period of time when I carried an average of over 200. I am on the downside now, and with bad knees and bad back, I only carry an average in the 170's now but still get a great deal of pleasure out of bowling on my two league nights each week.
I remember that when I first bought my own bowling ball and shoes, I bought a ball at Kmart for a little more than $20. The shoes were about another $20. NOW a high quality bowling ball can cost upwards of $250 and more, and quality shoes are well in excess of a hundred bucks. I probably have a dozen or more different bowling balls around the house. The cover stock ( surface) of the ball as well as the positioning of the finger holes and delivery style determines how the ball will react on different oil patterns. I have balls that work well on drier lanes and some that work well when the lanes are quite wet with lane oil. Some that take a radical hook as they near the pins and others that hook more gently and take a gentile curve to the pocket from the time they hit the lane.
Drilling a bowling ball has become a fairly involved and technical skill. The pitches of the finger holes determines how the ball comes off your hand when you release the ball, and can have a major effect on the way the ball rolls when you throw it. The holes should be drilled so that your thumb comes out of the ball first so that you fingers come around the ball and put rotation on it as you release. It is not something that can be accomplished with a Craftsmen Cordless drill, haha.
It has become like any other sport. The more serious you are about your bowling determines how much money you want to spend on your ball selection and equipment. I have friends that golf that have drivers and putters that cost as much as used car. My oldest son has a driver that cost over $400.
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Post by dave on May 27, 2013 17:29:09 GMT -5
The article cited by CB said the problem is evidently bowlers stepping outside for a smoke in foul weather while still wearing their bowling shoes. Bowling alley owners asked state legislators for a law REQUIRING WARNING SIGNS, not forbidding a person from wearing a particular kind of shoe.
I wonder if erecting a sign because of a law relieves more legal responsibility than erecting a sign without a law. Otherwise, why don't they just put up the signs to protect themselves.
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Post by Clipper on May 27, 2013 18:31:15 GMT -5
I don't see where it is any of the proprietor's business if I were to step outside to smoke with my own personal bowling shoes on as long as I didn't track anything back in and onto his lanes. Most bowlers have shoe covers that a person normally wears over their bowling shoes to go to the rest room or to go out to smoke so the soles of the shoes don't get wet. The biggest liability caused by slip and fall accidents happens because of drunks sloshing their draft beer cups all over the tile floors. What the hell. ANY business has some level of liability involved. That is why a business carries a liability policy. I was told of an instance where a person was drunk and puked their dentures into the toilet at a bowling alley where we bowled a tournament. They tried to sue the bowling alley because they stood up and the auto flusher flushed their teeth before they could retrieve them. They were unsuccessful in their pursuit of a lawsuit for the cost of new teeth plus mental anguish. I was sitting at the snack bar drinking a coffee and overheard the employees talking about it. I was hard pressed not to laugh out loud.
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