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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 10:27:51 GMT -5
Police calling Memorial Parkway incident a homicide Story Created: Dec 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM EST (Story Updated: Dec 26, 2013 at 10:38 PM EST ) UTICA, N.Y. (WKTV) - One man is dead after an incident that happened on the Memorial Parkway in Utica Thursday night. Utica Police said Andrew Mateo, 25, of Utica died after sustaining a gunshot wound. The incident happened at around 5:30 p.m. Authorities say Mateo was in his vehicle arguing with someone and then was shot. He then drove his vehicle into a building at the corner of Oneida Street and Memorial Parkway. The suspect fled the scene and police are searching for his wereabouts. Mateo was taken to a local hospital for treatment, but died soon after. Anyone with information is asked to call UPD 223-3510. www.wktv.com/news/local/Car-strikes-building-on-Memorial-Parkway-after-gun-shots-fired-237378581.htmlThe name sounds familiar to me. I must have heard or read something about him . Well if anyone is going to get even we have 5 days left to 2013. He also ruined the lawn and messed up the front of a private building. Why did they have to be so messy. |
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Post by chris on Dec 28, 2013 12:58:49 GMT -5
Alan this morning on the news they said three guys got shot here. They were at a party and I guess a fight started where they decided to settle with some bullets. And as I listened to the report I thought to myself seems they are all carrying a piece or two or three and wondering where they get these and why the world is coming to where this is becoming the norm with no regard to human life whatsoever. There has to be at least a shooting a day here and we are starting to become numb to the news.
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Post by Clipper on Dec 28, 2013 14:24:46 GMT -5
I have never followed the stats, but there is less shooting here in this area, or at least less shooting that makes the news. We DO have domestic situations that result in murder suicide, but in general, at parties and in bars, it seems to me that the number of people that carry concealed arms makes a person stop and think before they pull out a gun and threaten or shoot anyone. It was only last year that they made it legal for a permit holder to carry his weapon in a bar or restaurant. I think it discourages some of the shooting when a person has to stop and wonder if the guy he is arguing with has a bigger gun than he does.
I imagine it also discourages such things as road rage incidents. I mean, what the hell, are you going to flip someone off and swear at them when they may very well have a 44 magnum tucked under their seat or in their glove box?
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Post by corner on Dec 29, 2013 7:54:38 GMT -5
an armed society is a polite society
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 11:23:27 GMT -5
Utica shooting victim leaves behind grieving family, unanswered questions
BY KESHIA CLUKEY
kclukey@uticaod.com
UTICA — Andrew Mateo recently made a promise.
“In one year mommy, me and you will go to Florida and start a new life together,” said Johanne Mateo, 50, quoting her son.
“My son, he was an awesome person,” she said. “I remember him as a loving son, a great father, and the only young person that I knew that his life was his kids.”
The 25-year-old Utican was shot and killed Thursday, marking the city’s seventh homicide of the year.
Utica police said Andrew was in his car when he became involved in an argument at about 5:30 p.m. with a person on Dickinson Street. The suspect, who then shot him, remains at large.
Andrew then drove away from the scene and headed south on Oneida Street before he lost consciousness. The vehicle veered off in a southwesterly direction through the Memorial Parkway intersection and struck the Eric B. Racha Laser Dentistry building at 120 Memorial Parkway.
He was taken to St. Elizabeth Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead after the bullet moved into his heart, Johanne said.
Turning over a new leaf
Andrew wasn’t always on the straight and narrow.
Since he was 12, he had been smoking, drinking and hanging with the wrong crowd, he said in a 2004 interview with the O-D about the program Kids Oneida. He attended the nonprofit outpatient clinic designed to help children in danger of being taken away from their families because of behavior problems.
Andrew later went to an alternative school for children — Lincoln Academy in West Utica — but experienced a drinking relapse after his 16th birthday.
In 2004, he started going to Mancuso Counseling Service, an outpatient drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility on Genesee Street in Utica.
In 2012, Andrew was arrested and charged with allegedly threatening his ex-girlfriend.
But since then, Johanne said her son had turned over a new leaf.“He was doing excellent,” she said. “He was an excellent person.”
Andrew was working as a professional painter for a company in Syracuse and had plans to attend Mohawk Valley Community College this spring. He had a son, Andrew Jr., 6, and daughter, Jaritzalee, 4, whom he saw on Wednesdays and on weekends, Johanne said.
Today is his son’s seventh birthday. “He just bought them all these gifts and sneakers for Christmas,” Johanne said. “How do you tell his children that their dad’s not here anymore?”
In late January, Andrew had plans to go with his 28-year-old brother Joel to visit their grandfather in Puerto Rico.
The plans seemed so far away Friday afternoon, as Joel sat at his grandmother’s table with tears in his eyes.
“He was the realest person I knew,” he said. “He was my best friend, my brother, he was like a son. He was my heart — he was my everything.”
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Aida Centolella, left, and Johanne Mateo, grandmother and mother of Andrew Mateo, remember the 25-year-old Utican who was killed Thursday in Utica’s seventh homicide of the year. VIEW A PHOTO GALLERY AT UTICAOD.COM.
MARK DIORIO / OBSERVER-DISPATCH
uticaod.-e-edition
I thought I remembered his name from sonewhere. It is hard to leave a sorted pass.
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Post by dave on Dec 29, 2013 19:15:49 GMT -5
"An armed society is a polite society." That had a familiar ring, so I looked it up on Wiki. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polite_SocietyI like the second sentence that follows it. "Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." (Robert A. Heinlein) In fact, that quote inspired a shooting club called The Polite Society, according to Wiki. In my father's day, if you were impolite to another man, he might knock you down. This evidently took place across class lines as well as professions, if you did not include such people as teachers, social workers and ballerinas. The agressor would probably not be arrested, because the police expected a judge to look the other way when told the man was defending his honor and reputation, crucial bonafides in the society of that time period. If someone called you a theif you might never get a job again. So if you were knocked down you'd not only be embarrassed if you chose not to retaliate because of his size, but you might have to pay to have your jaw reset or your teeth fixed. Such a state of affairs brought about a carefulness in your choice of words to others. |
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Post by clarencebunsen on Dec 29, 2013 21:45:07 GMT -5
I find it jut a bit disconserting that I know I read Beyond the Horizon but I do not remember reaing it. It musthave been the 1964 paperback. There was a lot more in his books than I realized in the 50s & 60s.
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Post by bobbbiez on Dec 30, 2013 1:06:32 GMT -5
Alan this morning on the news they said three guys got shot here. They were at a party and I guess a fight started where they decided to settle with some bullets. And as I listened to the report I thought to myself seems they are all carrying a piece or two or three and wondering where they get these and why the world is coming to where this is becoming the norm with no regard to human life whatsoever. There has to be at least a shooting a day here and we are starting to become numb to the news.  Chris, I have to agree with you. It has become the "norm" unless it affects us personally. I don't even want to listen to the news any more. Not only is it depressing but it's getting damn right scary. Shootings and killings has become an epidemic and is happening all over. I do read the national news and listen to news nationally on TV. Just yesterday Syracuse had another shooting of two delivery people from a Chinese restaurant. Really? How much money can a delivery person have on them for someone to steal and be shot over? Convenient stores and banks all over this nation have become daily victims. This world has become very sick and dangerous and is only getting worse.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 16:26:42 GMT -5
I guess the days of life in Oz are over. Or have been for a long long time. It does get to the point where a person doesn't like to be alone in any of these places that are constantly being plagued by armed robbers. Many time I think I would feel much safer if I could carry a gun around with me while I am out on my daily errands. I remember when I lived in St Louis, MO in our House of Studies. Part of living there was our outreach to the poor. The area was not a safe area at all and I remember saying one night to my classmate who had a career in the army that every night around 2 AM I wake up to firecracker sounds. He said those sounds you hear are gunfire. Never felt comfortable living in that place again. Finally our Superior decided that we would have to close the place up and move. So we did. Ironically the old beautiful convent that belonged to a group of Sister's originally closed because of the same reason. There was a house across the street on the corner that was used by the girls for prostitution. Besides the firecracker sounds I didn't know what they were up to either at 2 AM. But I did peek out my window!!!
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Post by chris on Dec 31, 2013 14:32:20 GMT -5
Speaking of news (and I agree DEPRESSING) they are practically making one of our channels into a 24/7 news station( okay maybe I stretch the truth a bit but it sure seems like it) Our channel 13 station that I favor (ABC) has news on from 5 to 6p then at 6p it runs it's usual local news and then at 630p the National news comes on with Diane Sawyer. In the mornings Ch13 breaks in with local news and has another station CW that they continue stories with simultaneously. I really don't understand this and what the point is. And then if you use any media there it is all over again. Bombarded with bad news and bad comments all day long.
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Post by dave on Dec 31, 2013 16:13:27 GMT -5
Chris, part of the reason is that advertisers in a locality are willing to pay more for spots on local news shows, so the station makes the most money per spot on local news. Therefore they have to create more local news shows for more spots to sell more advertising. The least amount of revenue (I think this is still true, but someone more current in the industry can update us) comes from advertising in network feeds (e.g. during the play of a network program.) And national ads which are sent out to local stations by advertising and placement agencies to be aired from the local station pay somewhere in between.
The only problem with selling advertising on news shows is that mostly old people watch the shows. (All of those brass plated women falling out of their brief attire in the auto sales lots are supposed to be appealing to us old guys). Society's spenders, the 18 to 34 group, probably get their news from the Internet.
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Post by Clipper on Dec 31, 2013 16:14:35 GMT -5
We have news on our local NBC affiliate from 5 AM to 7 AM, followed by the today show, that takes local news breaks several times an hour for the local station to give us a five minute update. That goes on from 7 until 10 when Hoda and Kathy Lee come on. I think that locally, the other two major networks do somewhat the same thing with local news, for an hour, followed by short updates throughout the morning. In the evening, we get local news from 5 PM to 6:30 PM and then the national news until 7. I think the news coverage is tailored to those that work and their commuting times. It allows the local news to be seen before dinner, or after, depending on your schedule. I usually watch the Bristol News first, and then flip to the other station in Johnson City, that covers more of the JC and Kingsport news. Bristol primarily covers the Bristol area and SW Virginia, while the other covers Sullivan, Washington, Unicoi, and Carter counties in Tennessee. Just a matter of preference. I like to stay abreast of current events, both local and on a national/world stage, while Kathy prefers to go into the kitchen and watch Judge Judy or something else while preparing supper. I guess that is why cable carries multiple channels and provides a remote to flip with.  As for Dave's description of the car dealer's bimbo's, we have one here that was the mistress of one of the rather prominent dealers. His wife tossed him to the curb, and got the mansion on the lake, while he married the former pole dancer (that is a fact) and made her his dealership spokesperson and model. She fits in with the used car business. Not a bad body, but she is a "high miler." A long way from a "clean one owner" in appearance. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ROFL |
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Post by dave on Dec 31, 2013 16:30:47 GMT -5
Not to be mean, but it must be with a feeling of some desperation that a woman gets out of bed in the morning and realizes her hair, face and figure are all across the room on the dresser.
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Post by bobbbiez on Dec 31, 2013 17:12:54 GMT -5
Not to be mean, but it must be with a feeling of some desperation that a woman gets out of bed in the morning and realizes her hair, face and figure are all across the room on the dresser. lol! Not in this house. |
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Post by dave on Dec 31, 2013 20:50:45 GMT -5
Well, I certainly wasn't thinking of you, Bz. You're a natural beauty.
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Chris, I have to agree with you. It has become the "norm" unless it affects us personally. I don't even want to listen to the news any more. Not only is it depressing but it's getting damn right scary. Shootings and killings has become an epidemic and is happening all over. I do read the national news and listen to news nationally on TV. 
