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Post by frankcor on Aug 6, 2008 15:36:14 GMT -5
It made a man out of me.
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Post by Clipper on Aug 6, 2008 18:32:11 GMT -5
It made men out of a lot of us Frank. It made boys leave home and get a life, and some responsibility. Now there is no incentive. If ya flunk out of college, ya just live with mommy and daddy for a few more years and suck on daddy's paycheck.
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Post by frankcor on Aug 7, 2008 10:34:08 GMT -5
While I didn't flunk out of college, my grades were so poor after my freshman year, I was unable to get student loans. I spent a year dodging the draft then enlisted. While I don't know what I would have become had I not served in the Army in Vietnam, one thing is clear, I had proper motivation for college the 2nd time I tried.
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Post by wilum47 on Aug 7, 2008 15:00:59 GMT -5
I thought I'd just drop by as "Air Support"
Era Vet and proud of it! (I was busy fighting the other war.)
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Post by frankcor on Aug 8, 2008 15:35:58 GMT -5
Just as it was then, air support is always welcome, Willum. (them freakin' F-4s could bring some smoke)
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Post by Clipper on Aug 10, 2008 14:55:18 GMT -5
Well Frank, I have to admit that I flunked out. I majored in Mike McGuirl's bar on Eagle Street, and it turned out to be a non credit course, haha. We partied too many nights and studied to few. I ended up with one too many D's to get loans, and I went down and enlisted before the draft notice came. I got my draft notice in Boot camp, haha.
Amen, on the F-4's bringing a lot of smoke. They were awsome.
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 10, 2008 19:14:41 GMT -5
Good ole Mike. And Bud, his son in law. We were all outside shooting beers one night on the Eagle St. steps in 1962 or 3 (just before he built the covered patio on the west end of the building) and the UPD stopped to hassle us for having bottles of beer outside the establishment. Mike came out and began yelling at the cops and pulled one aside and said something to him that evidently made a difference. They left soon after that, but Mike did build the patio to keep us all legal. His business was picking up considerably at the time from MVCC students as they came over from Dick Smith's in West Utica. Dicks was formerly the official MVCC (then MVTI) watering hole when most of the students had lived over there and attended classes at State Street Mill, before it became a discount store. PS: DId you know McGuirl's had been moved from the corner of Eagle and Mohawk where the gas station now sits?
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