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Post by corner on Jan 18, 2012 16:54:42 GMT -5
A badge carrying friend who is originally from the City tells me it is illegal for him to carry in New York City while off duty, but he would not expect to be harassed by the NYPD, especially as a former son and a currently retired P.O. If a person legally obtains a pistol in NewYork State and reads only half the paperwork, he will know that his permit does not cover the City. And not that we would expect anyone to read it, but it says so right on the permit. But as Ralph points out, if you got your gun and/or permit in Missouri and drove with it on your person from Independence to Staten Island, there's no telling how many laws you might break. your friend is mistaken tell him to look up the law enforcement officers safety act of 2004 and 2010 hr218 and s1132 respectively
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 18, 2012 18:21:22 GMT -5
Corner, I'll ask him when he gets back from his cruise. He's liable to tell me you're right and I mis-remember what he told me. If you're looking at the law, I guess you're right.
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Post by corner on Jan 18, 2012 18:40:43 GMT -5
of course i am this is a subject of great importance to me
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Post by JGRobinson on Jan 18, 2012 18:40:57 GMT -5
No NYC for Me, Rats, bugs and way too many people!
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Post by corner on Jan 18, 2012 18:43:28 GMT -5
and very hard to tell the difference
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 18, 2012 19:42:04 GMT -5
of course i am this is a subject of great importance to me Not only that, but you're a wealth of knowledge! Do you go to New York City often? I used to think it was fun. Not living there, but visiting there.
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Post by corner on Jan 18, 2012 21:10:48 GMT -5
worked undercover there for a while in the late 90s back and forth for meetings and the like til i retired went down on a bus trip last sept for statue of libertytour with wife and one of the grand kids couldnt wait to get on a bus back home ate a ruby tuesdays steaks 3 times the price of the one in dewitt/
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Post by Ralph on Jan 19, 2012 2:30:38 GMT -5
and very hard to tell the difference You got that right.
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Post by Clipper on Jan 19, 2012 13:38:20 GMT -5
I'm with Dave. I used to love to walk around in Manhattan. South Street Seaport, Chinatown, Times Square, Tribecca. I would walk for miles enjoying the shops, the foods and the smells. I simply stayed away from areas where I would be walking alone without people around. NY is a great place to visit. One simply has to be careful not to wander the alleys, side streets, and should use cabs after dark or to travel through the seedier areas. Common sense must rule.
New York City CAN be a dangerous place. I once visited a friend in Glendale Queens when we were staying in Manhattan. It was fine walking the 6 blocks from the train to their house. When I left after dinner, the shops were closed and the security gates all rolled down, and the addicts and whores were occupying the street corners. It was a scary experience and I never bothered going out there again, lol. I walked all the way back to the train with a 5 inch buck knife open and concealed in my jacket sleeve.
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Post by corner on Jan 19, 2012 16:11:46 GMT -5
and that 5 inch buck knife is illegal in nyc they even have a special prosecutor for that they need to cecede and become an independent entitity... oh wait they thalready think they are they just need our money water and electricity to survive
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 19, 2012 19:52:52 GMT -5
and that 5 inch buck knife is illegal in nyc they even have a special prosecutor for that they need to cecede and become an independent entitity... oh wait they thalready think they are they just need our money water and electricity to survive And our blood. Blood drives in the Hudson Valley where I lived usually supplied downstate blood banks including the City. But to be fair, New York City contributes more to the state coffers than it gets back. Upstate gets somewhat of a free ride.
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Post by corner on Jan 20, 2012 7:50:04 GMT -5
yeh ive heard that crap from destito a few years ago
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 20, 2012 8:43:01 GMT -5
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. It's true. Upstate is somewhat subsidized by the City. We disucssed this before and sources are noted in those posts.
But speaking of secession (and a split between Upstate and Downstate has been argued since before the American Revolution) I thought this was interesting from wiki. What the hell, why not go all the way and secede from the Union. Town Line, NY did that over a hundred years ago.
"In 1861, in the small hamlet of Town Line in upstate New York (a suburb of Buffalo, east of Cheektowaga), 125 voters met and voted 85 to 40 to secede from the Union and join the Confederate States of America. The reasons are unclear, but an article in The Buffalo News from 1945 cites discontent with President Lincoln, treatment of Confederate soldiers at a POW camp in Elmira, dissatisfaction of German immigrants with being subject to conscription or war, the interest of self rule or perhaps an incident by some runaway slaves at a local underground railroad stop. It was also reported that Town Line sent five men through the Union lines to fight for the Confederate States under General Robert E. Lee. (However, this was dwarfed by the twenty people from the town who signed up for the Union Army.)"
"During the American Civil War, as casualties on both sides increased and the nature of the Civil War changed, the secession vote was slowly forgotten by members of the community but never revoked. There are conflicting reports on whether or not the hamlet was paying taxes as late as the 1920s. During World War II, it was discovered that Town Line had not rejoined the Union, effectively having extended the Civil War by diplomatic irregularity for eighty years. On January 26, 1946, after significant pressure and accusations of racism, Town Line voted to officially join the Union. In recognition of the hamlet's history, the local volunteer fire company has the words "Last of the Rebels" on their shoulder patch.[3][4])"
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