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Jun 27, 2011 16:07:20 GMT -5
Post by dgriffin on Jun 27, 2011 16:07:20 GMT -5
Hadn't thought of that. But then can't that be used as a universal argument of never photographing a policeman obviously being a policeman?
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Jun 27, 2011 17:17:31 GMT -5
Post by bobbbiez on Jun 27, 2011 17:17:31 GMT -5
It's hard to tell what was going on in total. From what I watched of the tape, I think the cop was overstepping it. He surely has a right to secure the scene and issue lawful orders in doing so, but I think she was more of an annoyance than a danger or an impediment to his accomplishing his duties. And I wonder why he was so sensitive? Yes, someone can use a tape to prove any point they want to and the copy may have been worried abut that, but far worse is to turn into the bad guy on tape. Once the woman, standing on her own property and not close enough to interfere with what the cop was doing, refused to leave and she kept taping, anyone with their wits about them ... IMHO .... would have backed off. Corner, other than the cop's right to do whatever he did, why do you think he handled it that way? same reason i would have u always hope for plain cloths or undercover and having your face posted all over u tube in uniform is a career buster. i never allowed myself to be photographed or taped. Corner, my son had a similar situation and did arrest the person for not complying with his order and for not stepping away. My son was an undercover drug investigator at the time but was on special duty in his uniform when this took place and could not have some idiot plaster his picture all over whatever. Some times it just takes a little common sense on the by-standers part because they have no idea what that officer is attempting to do and getting in the way can put the officer in grave danger.
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Jun 27, 2011 17:19:13 GMT -5
Post by Clipper on Jun 27, 2011 17:19:13 GMT -5
Other times it just plain serves no useful purpose other than to be a smartass and bust the cop's balls, and dare him to arrest you.
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Jun 27, 2011 17:21:26 GMT -5
Post by chris on Jun 27, 2011 17:21:26 GMT -5
From what I heard, they only asked her to go in her house, when there was a guy right next to her and they never said anything to him or the others around. She was the only one with a camera and so there for was singled out. Sounds like this cop had a bug up his a$$ more than she did. She was on her own property and was ordered to go in to her house...why wasn't any one else ordered. Next day the 3 cop cars came back to where they had a meeting and ticketed all the cars that were more than 12inches from the curb with rulers no less. Sounds like the cops have more of an unfair agenda than the people. BTW...I first heard about this story on the Coast to Coast AM station early Sunday morning...seems the whole country knew about this before I did. Will be interesting to see where this goes...she goes to court today. (If D&C writes about it)
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Jun 27, 2011 17:32:12 GMT -5
Post by chris on Jun 27, 2011 17:32:12 GMT -5
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Jun 27, 2011 17:54:52 GMT -5
Post by bobbbiez on Jun 27, 2011 17:54:52 GMT -5
Chris, I have learned that because a charge was dismissed doesn't always mean the person charged was right in their actions. It's up to the DA to decide whether or not to go further and many times the cost of court fees to fight a case is not worth the effort, so the DA will not pursue the case. In my opinion no one should ever distract an officer while he is handling a call. Again I state, the distraction can become a matter of life and death to that officer even on a simple traffic stop. Common sense alone should guide people but I guess that is lacking in many today.
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Jun 27, 2011 17:55:01 GMT -5
Post by Clipper on Jun 27, 2011 17:55:01 GMT -5
The cops went in force, with rulers in their hand, to some place that her supporters were gathered and wrote tickets for anyone parked more than 12 inches from the curb. Now THAT is police harassment. I finally saw the video and heard the story on the nightly NBC news.
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Jun 27, 2011 18:04:44 GMT -5
Post by bobbbiez on Jun 27, 2011 18:04:44 GMT -5
Can't be police harassment if they were breaking the law. What's the old saying......you wanna break my chops, then I will break yours, but legally. Whats good for one is good for the other. ;D
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Jun 27, 2011 22:24:26 GMT -5
Post by Clipper on Jun 27, 2011 22:24:26 GMT -5
Well, they dropped the charges against the girl and they will probably drop the parking tickets also. The cops that are playing the kids games will be the ones that look like an ass over the parking tickets. That was not necessary or productive. That was immature and stupid.
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Jun 27, 2011 23:19:28 GMT -5
Post by bobbbiez on Jun 27, 2011 23:19:28 GMT -5
Well, they dropped the charges against the girl and they will probably drop the parking tickets also. The cops that are playing the kids games will be the ones that look like an ass over the parking tickets. That was not necessary or productive. That was immature and stupid. .....and I believe her original actions was just as immature and stupid and could have been deadly. Y'all have to thank your lucky stars I'm not a cop. Too many a**holes out there playing dangerous games with the law and I'd be the one to play right back.
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Jun 28, 2011 4:52:09 GMT -5
Post by longtimer on Jun 28, 2011 4:52:09 GMT -5
I am with FA on this one. As I look at this the cop was really foolish and out of line unless something happened prior to what we see on the tape. He asked her to back up and she did, he should hav let it go there. Why was he not feeling because of the other people there? He was mad that she had the camera. His behavior during this incident was pretty disappointing as he actually caused an incident and escalated it, not a good thing for a cop to do. Regardless of what her "agenda" she was no threat to the police unless they did something wrong. Unfortunately this really makes cops look bad and that is unfortunate.
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Jun 28, 2011 4:58:49 GMT -5
Post by longtimer on Jun 28, 2011 4:58:49 GMT -5
One more thought about the cops taking their rulers, Now that is childish and just plain stupid. . It sounds to me like they are starting a war with their community, something they don't want to do because they will lose. As I recall the Rochester PD had some real issues a while back and went through a lot to restore public trust. All that work can be undone over this stupid incident.
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Jun 28, 2011 9:09:11 GMT -5
Post by Clipper on Jun 28, 2011 9:09:11 GMT -5
I know if I were a taxpayer in Rochester, I would want my police officers working to solve much more serious crime, and not playing childish games in a pissing contest with a teenager and her supporters. Doesn't to anything for MY image of police officers. I originally backed the policeman's actions to an extent, but playing with rulers was just plain ignorant. They probably should stick the ruler down their pants. They would probably find that they were short of peepee length and long on egos. Little boys playing playground bully games. This is NOT what people pay taxes for.
The original arrest of the girl was questionable, but there is NO question that the police acted irresponsibly and with overbearing, unquestionable stupidity by playing games and seeking revenge. They were just pissed that the charges against the girl were dropped. Should have been pissed at the judge, not the people they wrote parking tickets for. If they start playing this kind of games, all they do is throw fuel on the fire and give the public reason to distrust the judgment of law enforcement officers.
Probably time for the cops to get their panties out of a wad, put a little bandaid on their pride, and go back to work. Nothing good will come from this but a lawsuit against the city if they continue to play.
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