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Post by WestmoGuy on Oct 20, 2010 8:42:16 GMT -5
They re-did the old Burger King into a DD, and our district office. Every time I go through Griff when I cut through Rome I go through the damn round about there and just can't picture one on Genesee Street during what little rush hour there is. Too many idiots. Besides the one in the Mayors office. ;D My wife works near the one at Griffiss. The only time it's really back up she said is when everone from DFAS gets out at 3:30. I've been through it. It's not really too bad. Think they wanted to put one at Floyd Ave too when they build the rest of the Parkway. There are some traffic snarling projects coming up too. The bridge where 840 ends over the Arterial in 2012. The Jay-K intersection in 2013. Eastbound from Rt. 365 to Erie Blvd (3 bridges) I Can't wait! |
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Post by Clipper on Oct 20, 2010 11:56:19 GMT -5
In order to make a safe and efficient roundabout, such as they use in NJ and Mass, they would have to tear down everything from Eagle St to Hobart an from Kemble to Lincoln Ave. Otherwise all you will have is a nightmarish impediment to traffic flow and lots of accidents caused by confused people trying to change lanes to get off the damn thing. Can anyone say "chinese firedrill?"
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Post by Ralph on Oct 28, 2010 1:14:41 GMT -5
Clarence......that is NOT a traffic circle.
That's a cluster f**k!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 28, 2010 4:55:16 GMT -5
I'm sure it follows some sort of French principles of design.
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Post by dgriffin on Oct 28, 2010 18:20:19 GMT -5
With all the roundabouts built in NY State in the past few years, I'm sure there would be an example of a poorly designed one if they were common. All the roundabouts I've been through seem to work fine. In fact, they shine in high traffic situations because traffic moves right along and there's not much sitting, as you would have with traffic lights. The small diameter of the circle limits what the driver has to concentrate on and slows the traffic enough so that merging seems to be easier. And I've read that studies show they reduce accidents. The roundabout I often go through about ten miles from here was converted from a larger circle and the accident rate was reduced by 2 or 300 percent. The French video shows not a roundabout but a typically dopey French intersection with possibly typical French drivers. There's no way six lanes of traffic can enter an intersection without causing mayhem. The key thing traffic circles eliminate is the left turn collision, the most deadly of all accidents. www.newsweek.com/2010/10/04/roundabouts-reduce-crashes-in-indiana.html |
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Post by Clipper on Oct 28, 2010 18:55:41 GMT -5
The roundabouts in Newburg, and Latham work fine, but I disagree with the smaller the better concept. That is why I said they would have to tear down everything around the square all the way to Eagle St and Hobart St to build it correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 19:59:20 GMT -5
The roundabouts in Newburg, and Latham work fine, but I disagree with the smaller the better concept. That is why I said they would have to tear down everything around the square all the way to Eagle St and Hobart St to build it correctly. And that would be a positive step for Utica. I would love to see a roundabout in that area along with a small pond surrounding that area. If landscaped correctly along with proper care for the carp it would be such a needed infussion of positive vibrations for this area. This inner city area is a sickening mess. |
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Post by bobbbiez on Oct 28, 2010 20:20:13 GMT -5
 That's big 10-4 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 20:33:24 GMT -5
Oh, for those who don't live in Utica. Downtown just had two businesses open up---both Karate. One above the Catholic Book store and the other in Franklin square next to New Hartford Adveritsing Company.
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Post by dgriffin on Oct 28, 2010 20:58:19 GMT -5
The roundabouts in Newburg, and Latham work fine, but I disagree with the smaller the better concept. That is why I said they would have to tear down everything around the square all the way to Eagle St and Hobart St to build it correctly. Not sure what you mean, Clip. Smaller is what makes them work since the smaller radius slows down the traffic as it goes around/through the circle. The one I often go through in Vooreesville near Albany is quite small and serves a 4-way intersection quite well. Latham .... isn't that an old style traffic circle? Here's an interesting write-up: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout |
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That's big 10-4 