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Post by Swimmy on Feb 10, 2008 0:50:33 GMT -5
NYRI may bury power lineNYRI has made a lot of proposed project changes as of late. I'm actually surprised by this latest one. I sat in on several of their public meetings that Senator Mier held around the area as a campaign stunt. I distinctly recall NYRI's attorney or spokesperson flat out refusing to incur the "bloated costs of burying the line." I wonder what has changed that they're willing to try and make a compromise. I agree Mr. Griffo.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 10, 2008 8:57:44 GMT -5
What changed is likely to have been a secret agreement that will allow NYRI to charge enough for the electricity to be able to recover the added costs of burying the line.
And yeah, Griffo is most likely correct on this one.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 10, 2008 9:09:00 GMT -5
I think the divide and conquer routine is what is going on, not a secret agreement. Once you quell the larger communities' concerns, the smaller communities lose their added influence and bargaining power. If Oneida County residents accept this proposal, it would be the final ok for nyri's project and we'll really see an increase in our greed bills.
No matter how the power line is proposed, it should be rejected because it won't solve NYC's or NYS's energy crisis, just shelf it for a few years. And with the power line place, it will be that much harder to fight the inevitable power generation plants (be it wind farm, or nuclear) from going up in our backyards. That's the ultimate issue that none of the officials seem to want to address.
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 10, 2008 9:10:23 GMT -5
I would simply just not believe anything from them. They said the same thing when they wanted to run the line through Greene Country to the north of me. "Too expensive to go underground." After a groundswell of opposition from the community (Greene County is VERY scenic and depends on tourists), NYRI said, "OK, no problem, underground it is."
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 10, 2008 9:14:23 GMT -5
From NYRI's web page:
"NYRI is owned by a consortium of investors with broad experience in managing energy and other infrastructure assets and investments. The consortium includes Borealis Infrastructure Management , a subsidiary of one of Canada's largest pension plans, and American Consumer Industries (ACI), an investment holding company that specializes in environmentally sensitive power generation technologies and applications."
They're venture capitalists. They don't care about your environment. They probably don't even care that much about providing power, except as a profit machine.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 10, 2008 10:33:00 GMT -5
Profits are the clear driving force behind the project. The sad part is that us peons are duped. NYC supports it because: 1. it's not in their backyard; 2. their rates will be lowered; 3. they'll be getting power; and 4. upstate, in their opinion, exists to service them.
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Post by froggy on Feb 11, 2008 9:56:34 GMT -5
couldn't care less if they bury it or not, still don't want it at all. Tell NYC to figure out how to supply its own energy needs. What do they do for upstate NY other than take away our resources anyway?
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 11, 2008 10:53:25 GMT -5
Then, too, when the world's leading financial, publishing, entertainment and education center, existing in the one of the largest urban areas on the planet, is only a couple of hundred miles down the Thruway, you're bound to experience some inconvenience.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 11, 2008 23:35:55 GMT -5
Not to mention a bit of revenue too.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 12, 2008 8:33:08 GMT -5
couldn't care less if they bury it or not, still don't want it at all. Tell NYC to figure out how to supply its own energy needs. What do they do for upstate NY other than take away our resources anyway? They give a disproportionate amount of their tax money to us. I forget the exact figure but for every dollar the sent to Albany, the only got like .40 cents back. |
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Post by froggy on Feb 12, 2008 8:59:44 GMT -5
couldn't care less if they bury it or not, still don't want it at all. Tell NYC to figure out how to supply its own energy needs. What do they do for upstate NY other than take away our resources anyway? They give a disproportionate amount of their tax money to us. I forget the exact figure but for every dollar the sent to Albany, the only got like .40 cents back. All that means is Albany pockets the other .60 cents! |
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 12, 2008 12:38:24 GMT -5
if you say so.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 12, 2008 13:48:38 GMT -5
Right, and Albany pockets only about 30% of what we send them.
You might find better government than NY. But you couldn't possibly pay more.
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