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Post by Clipper on Apr 22, 2009 9:06:32 GMT -5
I think Larry more or less meant that it was a hell of a jump from secretarial work to CEO. Simple was not intended to be demeaning in any way, and I am sure that "simple" was not intended to indicate that she was "simple" as in lacking intelligence Concerned.
I would not cast any stones in the direction of Insight House without knowing much more than I do, but the "family run" situation there does leave the place open to suspicion, and the qualifications of the "children' and family members would be my main concern, along with what positions they fill and what responsibility they have.
Hiring a drug counselor needs to be a little more complicated than hiring a stock person for a retail store.
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Post by concerned on Apr 22, 2009 9:08:27 GMT -5
Or a relative at Channatries.
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Post by Clipper on Apr 22, 2009 9:21:18 GMT -5
That too Concerned, LOL!  |
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Post by tanouryjr on Apr 22, 2009 17:44:26 GMT -5
Concerned:
First of all, I don't opine on matters based on "future political elections." I give my honest opinion and try to keep it NON-personal. Notice I never once said the name "Donna." hmmm.
Second, Clipper summed up how trivial that "simple" statement was. It was not intended as a degrading remark against secretaries. The point is, there are MANY people still working there that would agree with me in my opinion that the CEO job should have went to someone more qualified. It's that simple and not personal. Again, if we are ever to change this area, we have to stop taking things personal and start being fair to ALL. If it was my mother, I would say the same thing.
Finally, I can't stress enough that I do NOTHING for political gain or based on how it might help me in elections. If I lose tomorrow, oh well. As long as I know I can look myself in the mirror the next day.
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Post by concerned on Apr 22, 2009 20:20:22 GMT -5
her name was implied and you know that! Her qualifications were perfect for the job as CEO.
I doubt a politician can keep things Non personal.
Have you seen the commercial on TV that questions people who say things that have a demeaning attitude like the phrase: How gay is that!
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Post by tanouryjr on Apr 22, 2009 21:19:41 GMT -5
her name was implied and you know that! Her qualifications were perfect for the job as CEO. I doubt a politician can keep things Non personal. Have you seen the commercial on TV that questions people who say things that have a demeaning attitude like the phrase: How gay is that! "implied?" Her name is irrelevant to the situation. It's the situation in and of itself that is troubling, IMO. With all due respect to the CEO, their qualifications were not perfect. Being a CEO is a huge responsibilty. In other counties the Director of Substance abuse is required to be a CASAC and have the proper credentials. However, you comments "imply" that you don't want to discuss the merits of the argument, but would rather make it personal. So, forget it. I'll let the status quo carry on. Don't complain when similar situations happen around here though. I see now why other politicians may not want to speek so freely on an online forum. It was fun while it lasted. |
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Post by dgriffin on Apr 22, 2009 22:00:38 GMT -5
So, forget it. I'll let the status quo carry on. Don't complain when similar situations happen around here though. I see now why other politicians may not want to speek so freely on an online forum. It was fun while it lasted. Good gosh, Larry. You have been very well treated here, I think. Everyone has been mostly fair and gone out of their way to be supportive of you. You will greatly disappoint us if you leave because you can't abide a strong opinion against your position. From one person. Where's your spunk, man? |
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Post by Clipper on Apr 22, 2009 22:17:35 GMT -5
I have had the feeling for a long time that concerned was not a great Larry Jr. fan. That is fine. I never expected to see 100% support for you Larry. You ARE doing a good job, and a personal little tiff should not desuade you from your appointed mission. hang in there my friend. The word politics in itself brings to mind differing opinions and opposing sides in discussion of issues. Concerned, if you don't agree with Larry politically, that is fine, and perfectly acceptable, and in fact fosters discussion, but arguing over unrelated triviality is not productive to any of us.
Myself, I see the intent of your post. Concerned obviously doesn't agree with the motive behind your statement, but that is strictly his opinion, and his slant on the issue at hand. We all know what they say about opinions, and I always make mine loud and clear, LOL.
Concerned, I don't think that Larry's comments were meant as a pointed slap at this Donna person, but rather at the management structure of the NFP. Let's let it drop, as any further arguing is off topic, and without purpose. One of those times when two individuals simply need to agree to disagree.
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Apr 22, 2009 22:56:55 GMT -5
Have you seen the commercial on TV that questions people who say things that have a demeaning attitude like the phrase: How gay is that! Heh. The squad leader in my online gaming league is a flaming queen and constantly berates us for acting "gay" as well as using other, less family-friendly terms. His husband hates when he does that. |
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Post by countrygal on Apr 22, 2009 23:24:15 GMT -5
I've been a secretary for quite a number of years before I became a Mom and I didn't take any offense to what Larry said. I understood the point he was trying to make. Most times, people get positions because it's who they know, who they're related to or who they're dating. And people may not be aware of any of the relationships............
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Post by Clipper on Apr 22, 2009 23:55:27 GMT -5
If you were as good of a secretary as you are a mom, you were very adept at your work kiddo. Going from secretary to Mom was certainly a well deserved promotion was it not?? LOL ( How is the pay?  ) haha! What do ya mean the responsibility doubled and the pay took a real hit? LOL By the way CG, where the heck have you been hiding? We were getting ready to send out the bloodhounds to find ya! Don't be such a stranger girl! |
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Post by Ralph on Apr 23, 2009 2:31:09 GMT -5
No offense to anyone here, but I have found that the population in general doesn't want to know where the dirt lies, and when they do find out they either head for the hills and ignore it or become rampantly defensive.
When I was having my legs hacked out from under me, most of the folks I was working with knew about it and all stepped back to watch where the crap would fly and the body parts land.......and said absolutely nothing. No one wants to get caught up in the fray.
After it was all said and done only one person on the board objected to it, the rest all sat in mute silence.
But in the end I won and the programs funding was dropped and expansion was not allowed, so it became a sacrifice for the better good on my part. But I learned a lot from the experience.
Those that know ignore, those that think they know don't want to, and those that don't.......usually don't care, just don't you dare touch their box of Cracker Jacks while you're playing the game.
Being a politician is no easy task; you can't make all the people happy some of the time, some of the people most of the time or a small contingent any of the time.
Being in politics for the good of the people is a lose-lose situation almost always. Larry has a brass set for saying what he does, when he does, and with no holds barred.
He looks out for the common good of the people and not for the common good of himself.
This is integrity, not politics.
I don't always agree with everything Larry says, but I always agree with why he says it.
He is one of the few people I have met who has said exactly what he would do, and done exactly what he said.
And because of this he will always have my support.
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Post by dgriffin on Apr 23, 2009 7:14:30 GMT -5
This is integrity, not politics.
I don't always agree with everything Larry says, but I always agree with why he says it.
He is one of the few people I have met who has said exactly what he would do, and done exactly what he said.
And because of this he will always have my support. And you, Ralph, are one of the best reasons Larry should stick around on Clipper's Corners. |
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Post by Clipper on Apr 23, 2009 9:51:37 GMT -5
The last 5 lines of Ralph's post describe my reasons for supporting Larry to a "Tee".
Well stated Ralph.
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Post by rodwilson on May 5, 2009 21:19:12 GMT -5
Where did he go?
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