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Post by dgriffin on Apr 7, 2009 20:59:20 GMT -5
I hope Mayor Bloomberg hears of my labors and sends me a free subway token!
Gee, I feel dirty.
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Post by bobbbiez on Apr 7, 2009 21:36:51 GMT -5
................take me out to the ballgame at the $1.5 billion dollar stadium..................
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Post by frankcor on Apr 8, 2009 7:06:30 GMT -5
I have a friend who went to the exhibition game on Saturday. He's still shaking with awe and excitement. The new stadium is incredible.
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Post by bobbbiez on Apr 8, 2009 10:58:12 GMT -5
Damn, it should be for the billions they paid to have it built. Hello, I thought we were in a recession. NYC can't keep their zoo going as usual and are laying off their employees, but they can keep the balls flying out of the park.
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Post by frankcor on Apr 8, 2009 13:14:17 GMT -5
We need a pennant. Soon.
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Post by Clipper on Apr 8, 2009 15:42:34 GMT -5
I wonder what the city would offer to build or improve if the Rangers were rumored to be looking at Atlantic City for a new home? NY City is a sports crazy town, and will spend whatever they have to to maintain the ball parks and the Garden.
People don't always want their money spent intelligently. It depends on what the stupid spending is all about. The people of NY don't want the Yankees to move out of town. Hell, who wants to watch the "Hartford Yankees" play the Boston Red Sox.
Sports venues are immune to budgetary restraint. I am sure that the last "new" Yankee Stadium re-opened for play, it didn't take too many years for the money spent on renovations to be recouped. NY is a baseball crazy town. Where else would you see two pro teams drawing enough fanbase to even warrant discussing, much less building TWO new stadiums?
I think if it comes down to who is going to lose their job, the guy that maintains the field at Yankee Stadium, or the guy that scoops the monkey poop at Bronx Zoo, you will see the pooper scooper lose every time.
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Post by frankcor on Apr 8, 2009 15:45:56 GMT -5
Do you think any of those monkeys can pitch?
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Post by Clipper on Apr 8, 2009 15:48:19 GMT -5
Give them enough steroids, and they can probably break the homerun record too, LOL.
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Post by bobbbiez on Apr 8, 2009 16:45:16 GMT -5
Hell Clipper, ya can't even begin to compare the Yanks new stadium price wise or activities to Madison Square Gardens. Besides being home to the NY Rangers the Garden holds over 320 events "all year round." Besides hockey games, the Garden holds events in all sports, figure skating, basketball, boxing, wrestling, tennis, lacrosse and not just the pros, they are also home to college games. Then we can add more events as the Kennel Club Dog Shows, both political parties national conventions, business conventions, Grammy Awards, County Music awards, film and TV finales like the shows Survivor & Jeopardy, the circus, and many musical concerts of all forms. I could go on and on concerning events held at the Gardens. The Gardens brings enjoyment to many in all kinds of entertainment and all year round. Can't say the same for the new stadium or even the old one. I may be a hockey fan but I am also a big fan of baseball and other sports, but I still say there is no way I will justify or condone the outrageous price they paid for the new stadium.
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Post by Clipper on Apr 8, 2009 17:06:51 GMT -5
It will pay for itself eventually. If it were not for demand, they would not have built a new stadium. I only use your precious Rangers as an example of how sports minded NYC residents are. Other than Rangers games and SOME basketball events, I doubt that the Garden is totally sold out on very many occasions. The same is most likely true of the Javit's Convention Center on the lower West side of Manhattan. Other than a couple of large car shows, I have yet to see the place fully utized. Many events take place there, but most only use a small fraction of the space available.
It is not about HOW MANY events they hold in a year. It is about HOW PROFITABLE the events are. Yankee Stadium makes enough profit in the short summer season that is the major league baseball season, to make it feasible to build a new stadium, that will sit idle during the winter months.
It would be interesting to see the difference in the ticket revenues from a Yankee/Redsox game when compared with the ticket revenues from a Dog Show at the Garden. I have to think that Hockey and Basketball are the only events that FILL the garden on a regular basis.
Hell, drop Bloomberg a note. He might care about your opinion, but as a Yankee fan, I would TEAR DOWN the garden, if that was what was necessary to have a new Yankee Stadium, LOL. Let the Rangers play on Devil's ice, and the Knicks play in Phillie, LOL.
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Post by bobbbiez on Apr 8, 2009 18:00:00 GMT -5
You're trying to make it sound good, reasonable and sensible, but how many times will you or I, (being a Yankee fan also), be able to attend or even afford more then one outing at Yankee Stadium? You're comparing ticket prices between the two places but you're forgetting, most I mentioned besides sports held at the Gardens, "pay" to hold their events there. Bet that pushes the Gardens well over just ticket sales at the Stadium.
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Post by Clipper on Apr 8, 2009 19:23:41 GMT -5
All I can tell you is that if I lived in Utica, I would be there at least 3 or 4 times a season. I should know better than to try and defend any opinion against your hard headed stubborn personality. In my opinion I could care less if Madison Square Garden fell into the subway tunnels below it, and the Rangers and Knicks went with it. It would leave a nice open place for bus parking for tour buses visiting the South end of Manhattan. Ask anyone when they think of NY City and sports, what team they think of, and a majority of them will say the NY Yankees. The Rangers and Knicks are just something to do when the baseball season is over. LOL I wasn't comparing ticket prices. I was comparing attendance figures for one venue, baseball. I don't give a crap how many damn dog shows they have at Madison Square Garden. Who the hell does except for a few dog lovers that like to put on their black flat soled shoes, and prance their pampered pooches around in circles for ribbons? I don't have any factual figures to back my opinion, and the subject is not worth the effort of researching them, but I can almost promise you that ONE yankee game sells more seats than two or three hockey games or dog shows.
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Post by Clipper on Apr 8, 2009 19:57:43 GMT -5
Just a quick look at the seating capacity of both facilities, tells me that the garden, when set up for hockey, only seats 18,200. Yankee stadium can seat in excess of 52,000. That tells me that one "sold out" baseball game comes to more tickets sold, than 3 hockey games.
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Post by dgriffin on Apr 8, 2009 20:42:01 GMT -5
Why, both the garden and the stadium are .... Economic Engines!
And probably cash cows, at least from the tax man's point of view.
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Post by Clipper on Apr 8, 2009 21:35:29 GMT -5
I am sure you are right Dave. They bring money from City residents, as well as drawing thousands of people from outside the city to events that take place there.
Can't forget that "economic engine" thing, hehe.
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