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Post by concerned on Mar 24, 2008 9:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by dgriffin on Mar 24, 2008 9:41:10 GMT -5
I wonder what I would do if 100 homeless souls chose to come and live in my back pasture. I do truly wonder. Concerned, what would you do?
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Post by concerned on Mar 24, 2008 10:18:32 GMT -5
Very good question. I guess the first thing I would do is make a whole lot of rice and beans. Then I would have to think this through.
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on Mar 24, 2008 12:35:50 GMT -5
Spitzer is gone, so we probably won't have to worry about it now.
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Post by dgriffin on Mar 24, 2008 13:15:53 GMT -5
I read an interesting article some time ago about similar problems in South Africa (I think) when landless natives began to squat ... at first illegally, then legally... on some of the big farms run by European whites. The interviewee was a white farmer and his story was that he and his fellows had seen this coming and were resigned to losing land back to the natives, but would have appreciated a much more organized program to be run by the government to hopefully educate the natives as to the best use of the land so they could share in the wealth. As it was, he said, they were just living there, taking up valuable crop space and collecting welfare checks. Think of James St. I'm sure his argument was very self-serving, but he did have a point. That said, if I were one of the soldiers in the photo, I wouldn't be able to sleep nights. No, I didn't read the story in the American Rifleman. It appeared in the New Yorker.
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Post by Swimmy on Mar 26, 2008 7:05:07 GMT -5
That's a tough picture to view.
If a hundred or so landless natives came to my home, I'd first give them permission to stay there until they committed crimes. That way they couldn't claim my property from adverse possession. If they committed crimes, I'd have them arrested for criminal trespass, the crime they committed, and anything else I could think of pressing charges against them.
There is a huge field behind my house that has not been cultivated in 15 years. Clear it, and set up some houses for them. Then I'd research their issues, and try to see if I could provide any relief for them with my legal training.
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Post by rrogers40 on Mar 26, 2008 11:52:50 GMT -5
The problem- more in Africa but I'm sure in South America- has been when these people take back "their" land- or their factories- they don't know how to use them. And the country spirals down into depression and chaos.
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Post by frankcor on Mar 26, 2008 12:00:57 GMT -5
Ahhh, manifest destiny!
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Post by dgriffin on Mar 26, 2008 13:06:08 GMT -5
From Wiki: “This painting (circa 1872) by John Gast called American Progress, is an allegorical representation of Manifest Destiny. Here Columbia, intended as a personification of the United States, leads civilization westward with American settlers, stringing telegraph wire as she travels; she holds a schoolbook. The different economic activities of the pioneers are highlighted and, especially, the changing forms of transportation. The Indians and wild animals flee.” Some thought it was good, necessary and even humanitarian. Others thought it was greedy, murderous and evil. Without it, most of us would be sitting in despotic European states run by maniacs. Instead, today we are ……
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Post by frankcor on Mar 26, 2008 16:28:06 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by Swimmy on Mar 26, 2008 16:52:34 GMT -5
I guess, in a way, it's no different to the OIN and its land claim and land-trust application.
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