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Post by dgriffin on Jan 7, 2009 9:36:08 GMT -5
 Obama defends choice for CIA chief Obama lobbies lawmakers on behalf of Leon Panetta. One critic calls the pick a 'Hail Mary pass.'www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-panetta7-2009jan07,0,7850757.story Reporting from Washington -- After promising during the campaign to restore order and accountability to the nation's spy agencies, President-elect Barack Obama has been beset by uncharacteristic blunders in his effort to assemble an intelligence team. Seemingly caught off-guard by the fallout, Obama moved to vigorously defend the Panetta pick ... "I think people will see that we are putting together a top-notch intelligence team," Obama said, one that is "committed to breaking with some of the past practices and concerns that have, I think, tarnished the image of the agencies." Is it possible that Obama is reading the Congress wrong? That although they all thoroughly enjoyed piling on Bush for his "immoral war," that in reality our Congressmen realize that you can't have liberals running the CIA and the War On Terror and expect to prevent our airports from being blown up? Oops, I forgot. The War on Terror doesn't exist ... in the press. |
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Post by snickers on Jan 8, 2009 8:58:02 GMT -5
Great choice! If I wanted to assemble a top-notch security team, I'd search all over for a person with absolutely NO EXPERIENCE in the field, you betcha!
Honestly now, I am trying hard to maintain my Wait & See attitude toward this incoming administration. But I have this nagging question in the back of my mind; about that light. Is it the end of the dark tunnel, or an on-coming train?
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 8, 2009 10:19:34 GMT -5
Honestly now, I am trying hard to maintain my Wait & See attitude toward this incoming administration. But I have this nagging question in the back of my mind; about that light. Is it the end of the dark tunnel, or an on-coming train? Ditto here. And the "spend a trillion dollars" to jump the start the economy is a big-stakes bet. If it doesn't work, we'll really be in trouble. |
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Post by corner on Jan 8, 2009 11:03:05 GMT -5
not to woory on jan21 airforce one will be pulling into nellis in nevada and a short helo ride thereafter obama will find out who his bosses are lol
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Post by corner on Jan 8, 2009 11:07:09 GMT -5
Honestly now, I am trying hard to maintain my Wait & See attitude toward this incoming administration. But I have this nagging question in the back of my mind; about that light. Is it the end of the dark tunnel, or an on-coming train? Ditto here. And the "spend a trillion dollars" to jump the start the economy is a big-stakes bet. If it doesn't work, we'll really be in trouble. i got a great idea for jump starting the economy the gov should give the money to people with mortgages and car loans to pay them off the benefit is 2 fold first the banks get their money and survive. secondly we get to live in our houses and drive our cars with out debt that would free up from a thousand to 2 thousand in most folks budget that could be spent freely without creating more debt and give the economy a boost |
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 8, 2009 11:11:10 GMT -5
Corner. That would result in the WRONG people getting the money. You want to give it back to those who gave it in the first place! How unAmerican!  |
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Post by corner on Jan 8, 2009 12:24:03 GMT -5
but it would actually work and no ceo would be able to boost their personal coffers but if it makes sense then government has the natural propensity to shy away from it.
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Post by corner on Jan 8, 2009 12:27:07 GMT -5
i got to wonder why hes feathering his cabinet with so many clintonites? thes are the folks that gutted the cia which helped 9/11 catch us with our pants down...the de balling of the cia started with that traitorous coward jimmy(let me help u build a shack) carter.
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Post by Clipper on Jan 8, 2009 13:44:41 GMT -5
Gutting the CIA is a very dangerous thing to do. I guess I may be among the minority in my opinion that the OLD way of doing CIA business was more conducive to the safety of our nation and the world. Just think, if Saddam could have simply been assassinated, we would have possibly avoided a war. Had the CIA been able to assassinate Bin Laden early on, before 9/11, we might possibly be much farther down the road to ending world terrorism. Are we naive enough to believe that many of our allies do not still have covert intelligence and death squads ready and willing to protect their citizens and agendas from wrongdoing and threats on the world stage? I think that it comes down to the sacrifice of the few, in the interest of the many.
I have become more comfortable with the concept of Obama as president, but I am EXTREMELY uncomfortable with his choices for cabinet positions, and agency heads, and I am leery of his agenda as far as the war on terror. We will just have to sit back and wait to see if it all works out. The people have spoken at the polls and we don't need to be like the Democrats of 2000 and carry on a campaign of revenge and retaliation for the next 4 or 8 years. We need to back our president, our nation, and make our voices known to our representatives. I write to my congressman regularly and know him on a personal basis as a result. Your representatives need to hear from you. They NEED your inputs and that is the only way that the government can be run FOR the People BY the people.
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Post by corner on Jan 8, 2009 15:01:24 GMT -5
i see the arrogant asshole congressman arcuri every week in church and he knows me from his days as da and my days in the streets talking to him islike laying down on your back and spitting straight up into the air you know the result won't be good so attempting it more than once is futile,
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 8, 2009 16:27:30 GMT -5
Obama came from nowhere and no doubt needed the help of many Democrats to gain the party's nomination and eventually the presidency. That's a lot of people to pay back. And we're seeing it take place. But I've always felt that many (not all) of the Democrats are actually not stupid and realize that a strong intelligence operation is absolutely necessary, as is leaving them alone to accomplish their objectives using methods recognized the world over as "effective." They may sing a different song because of their political platform, however.
Look at it this way. One party carves out an electorate they think is large enough to put them in office. They cater to that group with what the group wants to hear. Another party goes for a different group that somewhat overlaps, but is mostly sensitive to another message. The second party speaks this other message. So called polarity, while considered unseemly to the American image of politics, is actually quite useful to politicians, since it allows them to play their messages against those of the other party and to gauge the effect. History tell us American politics was in the past much more polarized than today. Today, the press looks at us conservatives and decides Americans are polarized because some of us don't agree with the press. The press cannot see beyond their own noses and have mistakenly concluded that all of us out here should be just like them. We are not. We're smarter.
The above having been said about intelligent politicians, Jimmy Carter is a dope.
(Full disclosure: I have no idea what I'm talking about.)
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Post by bobbbiez on Jan 8, 2009 22:11:08 GMT -5
All I want to add is that President elect Obama has taken on what I classify our country's situation as "terrible times." People are afraid of what tomorrow will bring to them. Will they have their jobs? Will they keep their homes? Will they be able to just survive? That to me is "terrible times," and I won't even bring up the wars we will have to endure in the future. People are afraid! Obama has not even been swore in yet but he is taking action already. That to me shows he is sincere and serious in getting down to business in finding ways to ease our fears. Common sense tells me we will not like all his decisions but this much I do realize. Before things can get better for us, a lot is going to hurt. Obama didn't promise an instant cure, but he is giving hope to most of us by showing his quick actions even before he is swore in as our leader. Can only describe it as this, "bitter medicine is given for a complete cure." 
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Post by dan on Jan 8, 2009 23:12:01 GMT -5
He has "inherited" (remember, he ran for this job with his eyes open. Don't think for a minute he didn't know the situation he was getting into) the country's terrible times because of the actions of both sides of the government he so desperately wants to lead. The republicans are certainly not innocent in this, but his party had more than a passing hand in creating this mess and the overarching fear that some are trying to promote in the general public. Times are tough, but these are not the worst of times and could certainly get much worse if mishandled. Everyone knows my leanings here and I'm not going to become an overnight fan of his just because he won the office, but I'll give him the credit he deserves if things turn out right and I'll criticize him when he's a bonehead. He is a member of the society that has created more problems than they have solved in the last 70 years. Personally I see no reason why he shouldn't be as big a screwup as his predecessors.
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Post by bobbbiez on Jan 9, 2009 1:06:03 GMT -5
Well Dan, I'm glad to see you keeping the faith. I'm looking at Obama as a man and not as a party member or I as a registered Republican would not have voted for him. I see him in his appointments that he is trying to unite the parties and in doing that, we can only benefit.  By no means is his job going to be easy and I give him more credit then you because he ran for it with his eyes opened. You make it sound easy but would you want the job? Not me kiddo! You couldn't pay me enough to even consider it.  In my 65 yrs I have not seen things this bad, so I disagree with you that we're not in a hugh crisis. Don't know about you but I'm hurting financially as many others I know. We are holding on to hope that Obama does feel our needs and will do whatever he can as our President to help ease our problems.
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Post by dan on Jan 9, 2009 6:21:23 GMT -5
I know we disagree on this, but you know how I feel Sunshine. Heres a copy of a previous post of mine.
" Re: Republicans want positions cut
« Reply #15 on Jan 4, 2009, 12:07pm »
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