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Post by strikeslip on Sept 12, 2008 6:35:52 GMT -5
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Sept 12, 2008 8:49:00 GMT -5
Dude, you're seriously kicking ass on this issue. It's sad that the local media isn't investing nearly as much time and effort into it. |
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Post by dgriffin on Sept 12, 2008 8:57:02 GMT -5
Strike, I come to this topic late in the game and I'm not aware of all the elements of this issue. I'm probably not alone.
Can you find or can you construct a succinct statement (5 or 6 numbered points would be helpful) to cover this controversy? I know it's complicated, but any help would be appreciated. How the heck did the school district get involved?
Thanks.
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Post by Clipper on Sept 12, 2008 9:08:36 GMT -5
Keep up the good work Strike. It is refreshing to have ONE source to go to for truth and factual information, while wallowing in the mire of local politics and media misrepresentation.
It is great to know that we don't have to depend on the local media, Donna Donovan and the rest of the NH political machine that I would only describe as appearing to be complete miscreants ( def: those that transgress moral and civil law.)
I read your site daily. I read the OD homepage to see what topics are in the news, and then I go directly to Faultlines to get the truth. I really appreciate and enjoy having you to depend on for the truth and to hold their feet to the fire and uncover the truth.
Thanks again for making Clipper's Busy Corner one of the places that you have chosen to be a part of. I am sure I speak for most, when I say I appreciate the participation.
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Sept 12, 2008 9:55:17 GMT -5
This development doesn't happen to feed into my favorite defective sewage pumping station, does it?
Doesn't the consent decree say they have to come up with a 4-to-1 or 5-to-1 greywater reduction if it does?
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Post by stoney on Sept 12, 2008 13:47:06 GMT -5
Strikeslip! How the hell are ya'?
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Post by tanouryjr on Sept 12, 2008 15:38:55 GMT -5
Did anyone read Picente's editorial in today's OD?
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Post by Swimmy on Sept 12, 2008 17:14:33 GMT -5
Strike, I come to this topic late in the game and I'm not aware of all the elements of this issue. I'm probably not alone. Can you find or can you construct a succinct statement (5 or 6 numbered points would be helpful) to cover this controversy? I know it's complicated, but any help would be appreciated. How the heck did the school district get involved? Thanks. - The Hartford wants a new building. Rather than go build one, they went to Larry Adler and asked him to develop the land at issue.
- Unconfirmed facts indicate that because Adler cannot secure any loans and has bad credit, the town and school board agreed to step in.
- The school board is relying on General Municipal Law 858 to claim that it has the authority to enter into this kind of TIF agreement and to fund this non-school purpose project. Unfortunately for danny, section 854 defines an agency as used in section 858 as an Industrial Development Agency. Which we all know that a school board is a creature of state education law and therefore by law can never be an IDA. yet the board has continued funding this project despite rich case law and statutory prohibitions stating in plain terms that school boards must use school tax monies for school purposes.
- Several FOIL requests for this illegal agreement have been made. And Gail Young has denied that any such agreement exists. When asked for a certification to that fact, earl reed was all too eager to do so. But with several Notices of Claims being filed, town attorney jerry green managed to produce a copy of this nonexistent agreement.
- There is a lot more than I can put into 5 or 6 bullets, but Concerned Citizens of New Hartford for Open and Honest Government has been covering this issue and spearheading the legal challenges. There is quite a bit of information they presented over the months. You'll want to punch your monitor as you read, watch, and listen to the shenanigans going on in new hartford town government.
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Post by Swimmy on Sept 12, 2008 17:18:47 GMT -5
Did anyone read Picente's editorial in today's OD? Yes, I read it online this morning. I couldn't help laughing because according to the DOT, they never made such a commitment. Rather, and I believe Dan Gilligan said it first, it was the town of new hartford that made the commitment. Strikeslip has also covered that issue in his blog. I suspect, that to cover earl's ass, picente is going out on a limb. Since it's a he said she said situation without any means to prove one way or the other, the issue is moot. But I'm sure that the DOT would not have disagreed initially to putting in a Jug Handle if they made a commitment. I would bet that the DOT would not be against this, but is only helping the town do this construction because they promised the hartford. I forget where I read it, but the PR person for the Hartford said he did not see the need for the intersection. Then two days later came out threatening that if they didn't get what the town promised they would leave the area and take the jobs with them. |
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Post by strikeslip on Sept 13, 2008 18:47:09 GMT -5
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Post by dgriffin on Sept 20, 2008 15:51:21 GMT -5
Swimmy. Thanks for the summary. Now I know what the argument is about. Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I've been away the past week. I assume Adler is a plain old businessman and not an official, elected or otherwise?
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Post by Swimmy on Sept 21, 2008 16:02:45 GMT -5
Yes, you are correct in your assumption about Adler.
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Post by dan on Sept 21, 2008 17:32:13 GMT -5
Can someone tell me (or maybe I missed it) why the NH School Superintendent is acting like he is running for Arcuri's seat and trying to push things one way or the other in this debate? He also seems to be getting into other town politics too. Since when did the School District of any town have an influence on town building projects?
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Post by Clipper on Sept 21, 2008 19:00:46 GMT -5
There was an article in the OD about just that subject. He made a half assed case for his political positions, but that is all it was, was a half assed justification for something that there IS no justification for. the article is titled "NH schools chief expands role in the community."
Only in New Hartford does the superintendent of schools shuffle school district assets in a private real estate deal for a company wanting to build in their sacred business park. I guess Reed isn't the only legend to watch in New Hartford. Hopefully they will all go down in "infamy" in a history yet to be written.
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Post by Swimmy on Sept 21, 2008 20:52:12 GMT -5
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