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Post by tanouryjr on Jul 22, 2008 1:42:39 GMT -5
Here are my statements regarding the Boilermaker, EDGE and the County's RFP process from last week's Board meeting.
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Post by Ralph on Jul 22, 2008 2:56:19 GMT -5
Please tell me that wasn't John who I think it was sitting there with you?!?!?!  Regionalization in this are is exactly what you describe it as...........tear down Utica. It can be done while retaining our City's identity. Good point on the RFP's, way to short for proper response time and far too little coverage. Utica is the County's seat, it they are not advertising in the OD, then they are certainly doing a great dis-service to all of us and themselves.  |
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Post by tanouryjr on Jul 22, 2008 3:04:28 GMT -5
Please tell me that wasn't John who I think it was sitting there with you?!?!?! I was wondering if anyone would catch that!! ;D ;D I just got all this video stuff and don't have much stock footage, so my cousin took some shots the other day while we were having coffee. John's not a bad guy. He certainly has the nerve to take on the system, so I have to respect that. |
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Post by tanouryjr on Jul 22, 2008 3:06:39 GMT -5
Plus, if you could only hear the audio of the conversation...it would make much more sense and likely get you pretty excited. We'll talk...
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Post by dgriffin on Jul 22, 2008 4:31:19 GMT -5
I caught the comment about "in the contract." Evidently, some thought EDGE's contract contained words that would have them give an accounting of themselves? That would be interesting, especially if the contract specifically details how much of an accounting.
Keep at it, Larry.
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Post by strikeslip on Jul 22, 2008 7:01:31 GMT -5
What was the RFP for? And was it advertised in only the Rome Sentinel? IF Utica is still the County Seat, why not in the Utica paper?
This might be enough to get Donna Donovan to start rethinking what the "regionalization" nonsense that her paper has been pushing really means.
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Post by tanouryjr on Jul 22, 2008 11:26:43 GMT -5
Dave, I believe what you're talking about is the fact that the law department told the committee that my legislation would violate the contract that was already approved, but I submitted the legislation as an "amendment" to the original contract and I KNOW we have amended contracts before.
Strike, the RFP process has garnered much attention recently. First, there is the RFP for the FBO at Griffiss that we though was too short and not detailed enough. And the most recent case was the leasing of a Broad St. property to store the new electronic voting machines. The building that they voted for (9 Democrats voted "No") has a major asbestos problem, is $20,000 more per year than one that contacted us a couple days later, and is owned by an active Republican Party loyalist.
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Post by strikeslip on Jul 22, 2008 16:18:42 GMT -5
Larry -- were the RFPs for each of the two items you mentioned published in the OD?
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Post by tanouryjr on Jul 22, 2008 19:14:02 GMT -5
As far as I know, the RFP for the Broad Street property lease was published only in the Rome Sentinel and only for one day. Also, the County Charter clearly states that the Purchasing Director must obtain "at least" 3 written proposals before entering into a lease for property. The county only had one written proposal, and if you count an "unofficial" proposal, they may have had 2 at best. So, I ask how we could even enter into the lease. They say we can. I guess they just make the rules up as they go.
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Post by dgriffin on Jul 22, 2008 19:27:42 GMT -5
I think Robert Freeman could answer the "newspaper of record" question re which newspapers, length of ad run, etc.
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Post by Ralph on Jul 23, 2008 0:02:07 GMT -5
Dave suggestion to check is a good idea.
Bear with me Larry, but doesn't the County have to have the same stipulations at the beginning of the year as the Common Council does as it pertains to their "official newspaper", length of ads, etc.?
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Post by dgriffin on Jul 23, 2008 15:08:16 GMT -5
Interesting on municipal law re "official newspapers" here: caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/nycodeft.pl?cirestriction=newspaperNot easy to peruse. On the above page, click a few "retrieve bill" links. What I got out of it is that the newspaper can be a weekly. Publication necessary only twice, once each week. A county BOL has to annually designate TWO newspapers. Newspapers have to represent two major parties. I guess that's to prevent them from advertising only in "Dave's World," a tiny press owned by the party leader's nephew, or the Socialist Workers Party Newspaper. |
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Post by tanouryjr on Jul 23, 2008 15:18:55 GMT -5
Dave suggestion to check is a good idea. Bear with me Larry, but doesn't the County have to have the same stipulations at the beginning of the year as the Common Council does as it pertains to their "official newspaper", length of ads, etc.? Yes Ralph. They did it in December, for 2008, before I was on the Board. But basically, the Republican Party designated the Rome Sentinel as their "official" paper and the Democratic Party designated the Observer-Dispatch as their official paper. So now do you wonder why it was only advertised in the Rome Sentinel? It's the Republican paper. BUT...Why then has the Observer Dispatch always been favorable to the Republican Party? They are currently giving them a HUGE free ride with this FBO contract. Well, you guys decide. |
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Post by clarencebunsen on Jul 23, 2008 21:02:16 GMT -5
The other complaint I frequently hear is that the OD is unrelently liberal, favoring both Arcuri & Boehlert.
I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored.
(Could someone come up with a new definition of the verb "to gore"? One that relates to Al.)
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Post by dgriffin on Jul 23, 2008 21:53:05 GMT -5
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