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Post by dgriffin on Sept 10, 2008 21:34:32 GMT -5
We're praying for her!
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Post by Clipper on Nov 19, 2008 23:20:34 GMT -5
WOW! I got an unbelievable deal today from a neighbor. He knew I was looking for a new table saw or a good used one. He bought a cheap off brand used 10inch saw an estate sale over the weekend, and wanted to know if I wanted it. He paid $50 for the saw and a box of blades and accessories, half of which didn't go with the saw.
I was digging through the box of "junk" that came with the saw, and I told him I would give him $25 for the box of "old blades and stuff". I had noticed while digging in there that there was a fairly decent craftsman dado set in there, and a FREUD THIN KERF 80 TOOTH 10 INCH BLADE, still in it's packaging.
I figure I made out okay just with the assorted 7 1/4 inch blades, a couple of cheap combo blades for my 10 inch saw, and the dado set, much less the 80 tooth blade.
I told him the saw wasn't what I was looking for, but that I would buy the blades and he could keep the saw and make a profit with what I paid him and what he would get for the saw.
Just went to a saw blade site, and found the freud crosscut 80tooth blade for $69.95. I guess I did ok, haha.
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Post by Ralph on Nov 21, 2008 1:34:33 GMT -5
WOW!!!! That was cheap at twice the price Clipper!
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 21, 2008 8:59:57 GMT -5
Makes me want to get back in the woodshop. I sort of tore it apart to reorganize it and haven't been motivated to put it back together. I need a project.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 21, 2008 11:33:10 GMT -5
Join the club Dave. Mine is in a mess with all the siding and trim pieces for the siding job that went unfinished when I broke my ribs. I have to get a neighbor to help me move the heavy 12 foot boxes of siding out of the walkway.
The dado set is a 7 inch stack dado set. A couple of the chippers had some rust on them, which I cleaned up with some oil and steel wool. When I get a chance, I will try it to see if it needs sharpening or if it cuts clean. I presently have a stack dado that was my grandfather's and a "wobble dado" that Kathy bought me on sale a couple of years ago. I am not crazy about the wobble dado. I have always thought that a wobble dado had to be hard on the arbor bearings, especially if cutting hardwood. Also a friend told me that the "horns" left by a stacked dado's outside cutters, are better for gluing than the flat bottomed dado left by a wobble set. Today's paper has a pneumatic brad nailer for $20. I guess I will have to call and check that out. I have a cheap electric brad nailer/stapler from Walmart.
I may have to have a second moving van to move my shop when and if we move back up North permanently, haha. It came down here in a trailer that I built on a boat trailer frame, that was 7x10. I have expanded since, and inherited my Grandfather's tools from my Dad. I guess I would need a 12 foot Uhaul, my truck bed, and would still have boxes to send on the moving van, LOL.
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 21, 2008 17:47:29 GMT -5
I know about the horror of moving. Not only did we do it a bunch of time years ago, but facing the specter of a possible move to Albany made me cringe all over again. And I've accumulated a lot more radios, printing presses, etc. in the last 35 years. We've all but taken our house off the market for the winter and with the economy, housing market, etc., we wonder if we'll put it back on in the spring. We may wait for the market to catch up with us. That's what I say to my wife, anyway, because I really would rather stay here, anyway. But I'm not about to start any large projects. I had some fun building small drawer enclosures from 1/4 inch plywood and 1/2 in pine. I used them for fly tying supplies. Maybe I'll think about something like that. You can see them here on my tying bench. Each drawer is about 11 by 3 by about 7 inches deep. I built them to slide into a 3-drawer "box." They're just right for fur and feathers, etc.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 21, 2008 19:31:42 GMT -5
Very nice work. I wish my shop was as organized. I have odd ball cabinets of all types and coffee cans, margarine bowls, mayonaise jars and other containers holding every thing from soup to nuts. I have several tool boxes and tool chests full of hand tools, and a peg board that is overloaded. I guess you would call my shop strictly "functional" and if someone else were to go looking for something they would have no idea where to start, although I know where every screwdriver and box of wood screws is located, and can open the right coffee can or jar without error every time.
If I get it cleaned up enough to use this winter, I guess I should make a concentrated effort to organize it and build some cabinetry and drawers. I have a friend here that is a plumber. He contracts with a kitchen remodeling outfit, and I should talk to him about salvaging me some used kitchen cabinets from one of their jobs.
I asked Santa for a dovetailing jig for Christmas. That will help with drawer building. Right now, whenever I dove tail, I do the tedious coping saw routine and file them to fit tightly. Very tight joints, but a lot of work, LOL.
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 21, 2008 20:45:26 GMT -5
Right now, whenever I dove tail, I do the tedious coping saw routine and file them to fit tightly. Very tight joints, but a lot of work, LOL. You're a better man than I, Gunga Din. I've never done dovetails, much less by hand. I've never built fine furniture. The drawers for my tying bench were quite simple and functional. I nailed and glued together a "pan" of sides and bottom, and then glued the drawer fronts on, supported by the knob screw. Pretty simple, but workable. Here's a question. Can I buy SOFT 1/4 inch plywood, without getting into expensive stuff like a veneer? The stuff I used was hard as hell and nailing the drawers up with brads (and glue) was a bitch. I finally used picture frame jigs to first glue the drawers up and THEN I put the nails in.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 21, 2008 22:33:12 GMT -5
I really don't have an a answer to that Dave. I have used softwood plywood, sanded on one side from a reguluar big box store, for different projects. I would say it would be alright for the drawer "boxes", but I would probably make the fronts with dimension lumber, or hardwood cabinet grade plywood although I don't like routing plywood unless I am going to paint it instead of stain and poly.
As far as nailing, I have never encountered any problems when I use my brad nailer. Even my cheap electric one sinks the brads almost all the way, and I simply have to tap them home with a lightweight tack hammer. Incidentally, I was too late to get the air operated brad nailer I saw in the paper this morning. It was already sold. I am ashamed to admit that I haven't driven a brad by hand in the last two or three years, haha.
I do a lot of things the hard way. I watched my grandfather saw pine into 1/4 inch thick boards by using a fence and his bandsaw. Then he would plane them to 1/4 inch by sticking them through the planer. He did that to make the insert tray for a red cedar jewelry box he helped me build for my mom when I was about 12. I gave the jewelry box to my sister when my mom died. He is also the one that taught me to dove tail with a coping saw.
As far as building "fine furniture" I have never attempted it either, other than a couple of small tables, and a pie case. I am thinking of building a amish style pie case this winter if I can get to it. A guy at the flea market is getting $400 a copy for a rather simply built and primitive pie case built with construction grade fir and pine. His plan costs about $60 for materials and about 12 hours to build start to finish. I doubt that I would be able to build one that quickly, but I would enjoy doing it, and my quality would be better. I might even build two or three at a time to save time in cutting the pieces and finishing etc. That would also maximize the profit for the time involved.
Willum might better answer your question about soft plywood. He does some really nice fine furniture from the pics I have seen him post on here. I am a "wood butcher" compared to his work, haha.
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 21, 2008 23:35:00 GMT -5
We haven't heard from Wilum lately, and as a matter of fact, I PM'd him this morning.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 22, 2008 0:27:27 GMT -5
That is true. I hope all is okay with him. If you don't get ahold of him by PM, let me know. I might be able to call him if I can find the number in the Utica book. I still keep a Utica telephone directory. Kathy's cousin always sends me her old one when she gets a new one.
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 22, 2008 21:12:37 GMT -5
I was in the shop this morning and tripped over my next project. I'd forgotten about it and stored it under a bench. It's a cupola that I was building and want to put on my small barn (not a baby barn) out back. Thing is, it's sort of big since I began it before I finished designing the barn and wasn't sure how large the barn would be. Also, my woodworking skills at that time were a tad more primitive and I didn't have a decent router, etc. So, I want to go back and change a few things. But it will make a great winter project. I stopped working on it when I couldn't figure out how to do the rafters. I think I mentioned the rafter problem before. Good thing to work on.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 28, 2008 16:08:38 GMT -5
Well, I made Kathy's bitch list today. I just bought a fairly inexpensive table saw from Sears a short time ago, to take care of a project I was involved in. Today I went to sears for the doorbuster sales and bought a better one for 149 dollars, that was 229 dollars before the sale. It has the dust bag, stand, extendable table, a good locking fence and all the goodies. I told her I would take the cheaper one to NY if we buy a summer place, or else I would give it to my son. She hates it when I go to the "toy store". I had bought the cheaper one to simply rip some furring strips when I was doing the siding on the building up back. I don't need a $500 saw for what I do with it, but I liked the new one better than the very basic model I bought last summer. I still have my antique craftsman saw also. If she finds out I have THREE table saws she will come unglued, hahaha! I bought my buddy Robert a 19.2 volt drill driver for $39 with a charger. I paid $89 in July for the same drill but it had TWO batteries and a charger. I guess the battery is about $30. I am such a packrat. I got a notice from my buddy the auctioneer that he is doing an estate sale in Elizabethton Tn next Saturday. He says there is LOT'S OF TOOLS! I will probably get in the doghouse again next weekend, LOL. I only have a 9 inch delta band saw, and I would like a bigger one. The auction advertises a craftsmen 12 inch. Also assorted routers, a large floor model drill press, wood carving tools, and a scroll saw. Can't help myself. I am addicted. If I can't use it, and I buy it cheap, I simply put the stuff on Craigs list and sell it again. LOL
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 28, 2008 22:14:15 GMT -5
Clipper, do they do auctions in TN like in PA (and probably other places.) Right on the front lawn and in side the house, if it's empty. We went to a few with friends who live in Lancaster, PA. Sort of bitter-sweet. Good deals, but you wonder how someone's goods came to be up for auction and you hope they're dead, which would be better than them losing all they owned.
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 28, 2008 22:17:51 GMT -5
My brother-in-law, God rest his soul, had a beautiful industrial grade table saw (he was a tool nut and excellent woodworker ... built our dining room set.) The fence and arbor were so precise he could make beautiful molding by precisely moving the fence and resetting the cutters for multiple cuts. I would certainly never attempt that on my saw.
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