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Post by wcup102 on Feb 23, 2008 20:44:40 GMT -5
Does Hillary think people don't remember one day from the next? She just about kisses Baracks arse at the debate and agrees to stop the attacks and then a few days later they are both at it again. Does she think we forgot Whitewater? Is she trying to get elected to show Bill she too and screw a fat intern in the oral office? I hope neither one gets elected or God helps all...."each and everyone of us". (Thank you Tiny Tim for those inspirational words.)
And is is me or does Obama sound like a preacher at these rallies? He also sounds like the "The ROck" if you are familiar with wrestling. I'm waiting for Obama to break out with The Rock's tag line, "If you smellllllllllllll .....what BARACK....is....cookin".
After all He does use other peoples catch phrases.
Just wonderin' is all!!
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 24, 2008 0:18:25 GMT -5
Well, I hope that Obama wins the democratic nomination. But my fear is that she will be our next president.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 24, 2008 1:56:59 GMT -5
Eugene Robinson, syndicated columnist, asks a fetching question: What if Obama were losing? All the media would be asking him why he was still in the race after losing 10-straight primaries in a row. But no one is asking Hillary that. Maybe history shows us never to count the Clintons out?
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 24, 2008 4:01:45 GMT -5
Would you ask a woman why her deodorant isn't working?
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Post by frankcor on Feb 24, 2008 8:09:51 GMT -5
Absolutely not. But why do women insist on asking men questions like "If I die, will you marry someone else?"
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 24, 2008 8:56:24 GMT -5
No, the media probably hasn't asked hrc that question because she is their candidate and they still have hope that she can pull off the upset.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 24, 2008 9:15:15 GMT -5
The media is a fickle lover. They sure do seem to be giving Obama a free ride lately. He just doesn't seem to be getting many questions that probe his promises of hope. Last night's debate was a little better with Hillary presenting her (horrifying) economic vision and Obama being forced to comment on it.
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 24, 2008 9:16:13 GMT -5
Absolutely not. But why do women insist on asking men questions like "If I die, will you marry someone else?" Because the real question is the next question, "Who?"
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 24, 2008 9:18:45 GMT -5
I missed it. What is her "(horrifying) economic vision" in a nutshell. Not too small of a nutshell. After all, that would be simply more taxes.
By the way, my Obama HipHop Ring Tone is working well. Went off last night in a restaurant in Woodstock and the local illuminati ... or liberalati ... were all agog. I often go as a closet conservative, but only in the company of other such fellow travelers.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 24, 2008 10:03:35 GMT -5
I'll hit some highlights. This one gave me a nosebleed: Hillary criticized Obama for mandating health coverage for everyone, even if they can't afford it, and countered his proposal with a program to give everyone a subsidy so they could afford it.
Her plans also call for making the people who already pay the greatest portion of income tax -- the top 5% income earners -- pay more taxes and give the people who already pay a small portion -- the middle class -- a tax cut.
Of course, Obama was pretty horrifying too. He suggested approximately $300 billion in new spending on domestic programs over the next 4 years. He also told how he would pay for it -- by sentencing over 2 million Iraqis to death. Well, at least that's how I interpret an immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq in order to cash in on a peace dividend.
I just watched a fine interview of four governors on Fox News Sunday: Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn., Mark Sanford, R-S.C., Tim Kaine, D-Va., and Jon Corzine, D-N.J. Of course, we had to suffer through a few minutes of fluff as each was asked about serving as vice-president but then the questions focused on real issues.
I was left with the question: why aren't any of those 4 running for president?!?!!?
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 24, 2008 10:15:01 GMT -5
Money, probably. But after you watched, for example, Corzine, for a while, you would tire of him. I know I have. Obama probably looked good at first. By the way, his "vapor" campaign platform isn't a much different tactic than Bill Clinton's, although Bill was much smarter, I think, and was the consummate politician. I'll bet Bill rivals LBJ!
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Post by frankcor on Feb 24, 2008 10:21:20 GMT -5
I think history will treat Bill Clinton much more harshly than it has LBJ (and deservedly so). I remember as I lived through that era in our history, thinking that Kennedy was a far better president than LBJ. That opinion has completely reversed as I've gotten older and learned more about their presidencies.
And yeah, Corzine would be easy to despise. I still am amazed NJ elected him again.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 24, 2008 10:24:09 GMT -5
... oops, I pulled the trigger too soon again ...
What impressed me most about the four governors was their willingness to address real issues in a candid and direct manner.
If you get a chance to catch it on rerun tonight, I think you'll enjoy it. The "panel" was excellent too as they discussed what Clinton needs to do to win Texas and Ohio.
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 24, 2008 10:54:59 GMT -5
Frank, would you happen to know what time it re runs? I'm not sure what time I'll be back.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 24, 2008 12:36:38 GMT -5
It originally airs on Fox broadcast channels in the morning, and Fox News cable channel reruns it at 6:00PM on Sunday evenings.
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