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Post by corner on Oct 1, 2011 18:06:53 GMT -5
i too know many who lead quiet dignified lives but my god there is a movemnt out there to make what has been considered abberant behavior mainstream and dont tell me they are not actively recruiting youth..there is a difference between dignified and out there in your face.. i dont care what anyone does in their bedroom just keep it there.
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Post by Clipper on Oct 1, 2011 18:26:44 GMT -5
Exactly. I haven't seen any recruiting posters yet Corner, but I imagine that there are "converts" although I have to think that it is most likely not something that someone is recruited into. I think it is most likely a genetic disposition rather than a learned behavior. Do ya think they will open a gay recruiting office in Utica now that they have "done away with don't ask don't tell?" That would be a revolting development if I do say so myself, haha. Now THERE is a policy that I am not too comfortable with. Pretty soon they will just do away with bunk beds and give soldiers a choice between a twin bed or a queen.
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Post by corner on Oct 1, 2011 19:12:10 GMT -5
too many queens running around now
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Post by JGRobinson on Oct 3, 2011 5:20:08 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding Homophobic and anti-gay, I think this is a ridiculous proposition, even sex reassignment candidates dont all believe they are Homosexual, they feel they were born the right mental gender with the wrong physical attributes. This is not a question of if anti gay, basher's will try to deny the rights of Homosexuals but thats exactly how it will be presented!
Were literally stripping the disabled and elderly of their services in this state yet they want to take propose to mangle a perfectly functioning human body at the taxpayers expense; chop it up, add extra pieces and say its medically necessary because someone doesn't feel they are the person they were born to be?
If one chooses to fund their own elective surgery, understands all the risks it can present and signs on the bottom line, go for it! Why should New Yorks Taxpayers take this risk on when its not medically necessary, could kill or maim the recipient and actually run's counter to a substantial portion of the populations Morals and Ethics? People die daily from Abortions, boob jobs, Liposuction and even Face-lifts, gender reassignment is so much more dangerous than those and just as medically necessary, its not!
The fact that this board is considering elective yet major surgery as a medically necessary procedure proves they care nothing about the states financial issues, the real sick, disabled and dying or the lives of those seeking re-assignment. Their support for this proceedure is like when the FDA approves a new drug, it must be OK, safe and good right? Wrong, Many of the drugs they Stamp "Approved" on are actually very dangerous, many are recalled, most have side effects that are ignored until they become an issue or kill people!
Think about it for a second, this Is Dr Mengela stuff were sanctioning here. Its not reconstruction due to a physical abnormality or Trauma, is deconstruction and renovation of the human body, add this, take that off! Doesn't the Dr's Oath require them to Cause no harm? What more harm can you cause than chop-shopping a fully functioning body because their perception is altered? Can I just go in and tell them to amputate my leg because it doesn't feel like I should have it?
Where do you find a Dr that thinks that playing god is their right or responsibility? Were not talking about Hermaphrodites or Sexual Dysfunction or Malfunction. They are taking perfectly functioning Human Genitalia, chopping it into pieces and creating a fallacy organ that does not function for the sake of how things look. Orgasm is Orgasm, learn to love the one you got, its not assigned by gender, its experienced by all genders with and without assistance of others. This is mental, counsel the mind; dont destroy someones body, thats sick!
The risks and liabilities this could present to NY's taxpayers and everything about promoting their particular special choice alteration should eliminate it from the discussion ASAP but its going to be pushed until it passes, if not today, tomorrow!.
This is what I refer to as cultural Creep, it starts out as a reasonable cry to accept certain subcultures as more normal and once any ground is gained, were somehow convinced we must go from acceptance to promotion of the once shunned activity! Circumcision is now become questionable practice and called baby mutilation, an Add-a-Dictomy is certainty adult mutilation.
20 years ago, we were told we must accept gay lifestyles and we did. Then we should welcome Gay Adoption, we did. All Alternative lifestyles seek shared benefits, we accepted them mostly, more are added daily. Marriage of any Gender in NY came next, its Law now. Now we should pay for those who disbelieve their gender assignment was botched to try life a different gender, what if that doesnt work, do we pay to change them back?
This is not anti gay, this is personal choice and the responsibilities that come with those choices. Its a far stretch to believe those that are struggling to feed, cloth and shelter their families should help pay for surgery to change someones physical characteristics if they dont impair their actual ability to live!
I relate this subject with Gun Control! 30 years ago all they wanted to do was locate the "dangerous" guns like pistols and automatics, register them so that we could track them better and remove them from the hands of criminals. Now all guns are bad! Over the years, the creep has continued to the point where our second amendment is now highly compromised and under assault daily. The patriot act does the same thing to our Constitutional rights, Picking away at them like a crow on a carcass!
The Taboo progressives have a habit of growing their goals well beyond the original scope of their vocalized intentions every time they succeed at legislating change for us. Once given a chance to push the envelopes of acceptance via laws instead of natural cultural shift it empowers them to keep the pressure on until it turns to something that resembles this!
In California, prisoners get sex changes for free! Do you think that wont be in a future budget if this passes? Can NY mandate BCBS and other State approved Insurers add this to the list of covered procedures if Medicaid and Medicare must? This creeping of norms isn't Homophobic Paranoia, its real and not reasonable to mandate, expect or fund personal choices at the expense of those that do not share in those beliefs.
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Post by corner on Oct 3, 2011 6:21:15 GMT -5
amen jg amen
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