Post by Swimmy on Mar 3, 2008 9:58:38 GMT -5
Editorial: Area leaders need to fight land trust plan
Is it too much to ask that the idiots at the od do a little bit of research before posting their laughable drivel? Seriously! You would think that a bunch of idiots who donned the title journalist and take pride in informing the public of what is has a right to know would conduct the most basic research before spouting off baseless rhetoric.
Frankcor and I already posted this stuff in another thread where eyesopen claimed to be educated on the subject. I grow tired of having to correct the od's INTENTIONAL MISTAKES!!!!! Stop this personal agenda crap and start reporting facts.
1. OIN's total 17,000-acre application occupies only 1.3 percent of the total taxable land in Oneida County. You mean to tell me that that land, originally undeveloped land, would be unacceptable? Give me a break. If this was undeveloped land, you would have no problem. Because no one cared when it was undeveloped. Does the od board of idiots know how much county land is already exempt from the county? Oneida limited facilities, the new development for the Hartford complex, preswick glen --initially, and that's just to name a few I'm not even touching the "Empire Zones" and countless other properties that don't pay property taxes as incentives to stay in business in the area. Sounds racist to me that it's ok to exempt whiteman's land but not OIN's.
2. this so-called jurisdictional nightmare you speak of is blasphemous. To date, no one has given a credible argument about this other than to flat out say checkerboarding is bad. The 32-acre reservation has checkerboarded jurisdictions for the past how many years? I have heard of ZERO jurisdictional nightmares. I'm sure law enforcement is infuriated by your insults. Unlike you guys, I think law enforcement possesses the brainpower to look at a map and figure out what jurisdiction is where. It's no different that having multiple city police department agreements. You don't see a problem with New Hartford Police and Utica Police and jurisdiction problems there, do you? NO because they have agreements. The same that would go into play with OIN if the application is granted.
3. your complaints about the entire 13,086 proposal being unacceptable overlooks the entire point of the IRA of 1934. But if you read the FEIS, you would know that. You would also know that the BIA seriously considered recommending 35,000 acres to be put into trust. I'd hate to see your reactions then. Would you be advocating war? The law exists to help promote self-governance. Look at the actual lands they want put into trust. It starts on page nine of the alternatives section. Since you all lack basic research skills, I'll provide the link for you, FEIS -- Alternatives. If you bother to read the rest of the FEIS you'll realize that the land recommended promotes the law's intent.
4. It's not an issue that needs to be fought. It needs to be negotiated. Because once that land goes into trust, yes I'm assuming it will, you won't see anything and OIN then will have NO reason to negotiate. Negotiate now, and you'll see some of that money. What a bunch of stupid idiots to advocate against negotiating. Litigation should be the LAST resort. The state and county has already wasted enough of my tax monies on this issue that could have been better spent and preventing the Hinckley Reservoir crisis, the SEWER CRISIS, reducing the sales tax as promised, agreeing to a better contract for law enforcement, and a littany of more important issues concerning us, e.g. NYRI. That is one that should be fought at all costs.
Just once, I would love to see something out of this board that demonstrates basic research and reading comprehension skills. Stop relying on someone else's drivel and do your own. If you want to see the rest of the report, visit HERE. It's from the BIA, doesn't get more authoritative than that. I noticed that you dropped that other stupid argument about NYS being exempt from federal law because it's one of the original 13 colonies. But I grow weary of doing the work for you.
Is it too much to ask that the idiots at the od do a little bit of research before posting their laughable drivel? Seriously! You would think that a bunch of idiots who donned the title journalist and take pride in informing the public of what is has a right to know would conduct the most basic research before spouting off baseless rhetoric.
Frankcor and I already posted this stuff in another thread where eyesopen claimed to be educated on the subject. I grow tired of having to correct the od's INTENTIONAL MISTAKES!!!!! Stop this personal agenda crap and start reporting facts.
1. OIN's total 17,000-acre application occupies only 1.3 percent of the total taxable land in Oneida County. You mean to tell me that that land, originally undeveloped land, would be unacceptable? Give me a break. If this was undeveloped land, you would have no problem. Because no one cared when it was undeveloped. Does the od board of idiots know how much county land is already exempt from the county? Oneida limited facilities, the new development for the Hartford complex, preswick glen --initially, and that's just to name a few I'm not even touching the "Empire Zones" and countless other properties that don't pay property taxes as incentives to stay in business in the area. Sounds racist to me that it's ok to exempt whiteman's land but not OIN's.
2. this so-called jurisdictional nightmare you speak of is blasphemous. To date, no one has given a credible argument about this other than to flat out say checkerboarding is bad. The 32-acre reservation has checkerboarded jurisdictions for the past how many years? I have heard of ZERO jurisdictional nightmares. I'm sure law enforcement is infuriated by your insults. Unlike you guys, I think law enforcement possesses the brainpower to look at a map and figure out what jurisdiction is where. It's no different that having multiple city police department agreements. You don't see a problem with New Hartford Police and Utica Police and jurisdiction problems there, do you? NO because they have agreements. The same that would go into play with OIN if the application is granted.
3. your complaints about the entire 13,086 proposal being unacceptable overlooks the entire point of the IRA of 1934. But if you read the FEIS, you would know that. You would also know that the BIA seriously considered recommending 35,000 acres to be put into trust. I'd hate to see your reactions then. Would you be advocating war? The law exists to help promote self-governance. Look at the actual lands they want put into trust. It starts on page nine of the alternatives section. Since you all lack basic research skills, I'll provide the link for you, FEIS -- Alternatives. If you bother to read the rest of the FEIS you'll realize that the land recommended promotes the law's intent.
4. It's not an issue that needs to be fought. It needs to be negotiated. Because once that land goes into trust, yes I'm assuming it will, you won't see anything and OIN then will have NO reason to negotiate. Negotiate now, and you'll see some of that money. What a bunch of stupid idiots to advocate against negotiating. Litigation should be the LAST resort. The state and county has already wasted enough of my tax monies on this issue that could have been better spent and preventing the Hinckley Reservoir crisis, the SEWER CRISIS, reducing the sales tax as promised, agreeing to a better contract for law enforcement, and a littany of more important issues concerning us, e.g. NYRI. That is one that should be fought at all costs.
Just once, I would love to see something out of this board that demonstrates basic research and reading comprehension skills. Stop relying on someone else's drivel and do your own. If you want to see the rest of the report, visit HERE. It's from the BIA, doesn't get more authoritative than that. I noticed that you dropped that other stupid argument about NYS being exempt from federal law because it's one of the original 13 colonies. But I grow weary of doing the work for you.
It is no secret that the OD is very slanted and biased. Most papers are biased and lean in one direction or the other, but the OD seems to change their direction with the wind. I would guess that the ad dollars from OIN probably have an influence, although I am not sure exactly how much they use the OD.
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. I have faith in you and I am counting on you to represent many of us that feel as you do but can not be there. 
