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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 16:57:44 GMT -5
 And they said they fixed the problem after this happened the first time a few years ago. Water was also gushing up out of the sewers in some places in North Utica. |
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Post by BHU on Aug 17, 2019 17:06:17 GMT -5
I don't remember the arterial ever flooding before they rebuilt it.
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Post by Clipper on Aug 17, 2019 18:03:56 GMT -5
I guess they lied when they said that it was fixed after the last time this happened PB. Their big berm certainly makes a great dam, and the Court St. northbound exit ramp works well as a boat launch site on days like today. Another day when you need a dinghy to get to the Dinghey Bar. Is that little dive still open?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 20:33:24 GMT -5
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Post by BHU on Aug 17, 2019 20:40:45 GMT -5
I guess the engineers forgot to account for the fact that water runs downhill & without proper drainage...........
Not sure about the Dinghey. Most of those old west Utica joints are boarded up except for Varick St. I often wondered why the Bearded Dolphin closed up, they had a hell of a business. I was in there one night eons ago & I won so many pool games for free beer the bartender threw me out. Lol. I had a stack of chips for free beer which I promptly went up & down the bar handing them out. Stayed out of there for months. The good ole days.
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Post by Clipper on Aug 18, 2019 16:32:27 GMT -5
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Post by BHU on Aug 18, 2019 17:24:59 GMT -5
The DPW commissioner was just on WKTV blaming the Mohawk River saying the river can't handle the flow from Utica storm sewers. It's ridiculous. Imho it's those jersey barriers that the state installed which is funneling water down the elevated roadway on the east side. I'll bet those barriers are cheaper then guard rails so that's what the state used. That redesigned arterial which I've driven on dozens of times is the worst designed road project I've ever seen.
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Post by Clipper on Aug 18, 2019 18:39:41 GMT -5
PB, the Dinghy Bar that I was speaking of was a little dive bar on the Northern point of Sunset and Lincoln. I don't understand why it would have a Plant St. address unless it has moved. There used to be a bar on the corner of Plant St. that was a place where politicians hung out. It was called the something or other ward. Just a corner, fluorescent lit, store front beer joint. The Dinghy was kitty corner from it on the point.
BHU. I loved the Bearded Dolphin. When I worked at the OD we always ate lunch there on Fridays and on other days when we had staff meetings or department lunches. They had a great fish fry and their lunch specials were always good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 20:40:39 GMT -5
I saw the news tonight and why can't they just get rid of the concrete barrier and replace it with the metal rails you see on the thruway in various places. The darn thing acts like a damn for the water flowing in that direction.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 19, 2019 10:08:04 GMT -5
I'm not a civil engineer, my grandfather was but I don't think that counts. However, I find it hard to believe when the northbound lanes flood and the southbound don't that the problem is the Mohawk River. Our state DOT is in a CYA mode.
I also am not fond of the design. When going from downtown to to the southbound arterial, I am always nervous about the manner in which the entrance lanes merge followed by an inadequate merge lane onto the arterial. Hard to imagine what it will be like in a few years when it is shift change at the hospital.
To which election official would you like to complain? Our governor realizes that there are people between Albany and Buffalo every election and promises that just a few more million dollars will bring 2000 jobs to Marcy. Our former state rep just tore his rotator cuff patting himself on the great job has done as a freshman in Congress. His replacement has zero seniority in a body controlled by downstate interests.
My best advice, "Suck it up, Buttercup."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 21:04:11 GMT -5
But Senator Griffo was on TV News today saying this was completely unacceptable and a letter will be sent to the Governor and the DOT to work with all involved to solve this huge problem. He said that regardless of the types of rainfall the area still gets flooded. Or something to that. I think they need to dig the entire think up is that immediate area and redesign an new road with an inclined plane to avoid the runnoff from these heavy rain events. Something like this"  |
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Post by Clipper on Aug 20, 2019 7:41:04 GMT -5
www.wktv.com/content/news/Residents-expressing-concerns-about-weekend-flooding-552515411.htmlI am not an engineer, but I find the idea that the level of the river is causing the flooding on the arterial rather hard to swallow. If the high water level in the river doesn't allow the free flow of storm water into the river, and forces the water to back up in the storm drain system, I would think that possibly changing the angle at which the pipe enters the river might offer some relief. angle the pipe so it enters the river on a downstream angle allowing the water to enter the river blending with the downstream flow. Changing the angle might even create a venturi effect that would actually serve to speed the flow by literally sucking the storm water into the river's flow. My heart goes out to those who are experiencing mud and storm water in their cellars. You can bet your bippy that it would have been remedied after the first flood if it were the mayor's basement that was filling with sewage or storm water. I was reading some of the comments. The fact that the new hospital is being built in the area adjacent to the areas that experience the flooding should be a matter of concern. The person that stated that most hospitals are built on a hill left me thinking, and I cannot think of a hospital that is NOT built on a hill. St. E's, St. Lukes, Little Falls, Syracuse's Upstate Medical Center and St. Joseph, the former Ilion hospital, and even Rome City Hospital are all built on an elevated site that puts them above any potential flooding risk. Building the new hospital will surely result in some additional changes to the sewer system in that area. A system already in a questionable state of repair. How will ambulances get to the new hospital if the streets around it are flooded? What will they do when the sewage starts erupting from the sinks and toilets in the lower levels of the new hospital? Oh my goodness. Why is there feces and toilet paper in the scrub sink outside of the surgery? Yep, I am still one of those that thinks the downtown site was a poor decision. A decision made by the same politically driven jackasses that pushed the plan for the arterial project. If I still lived there I would undoubtedly be voting for anyone other than the present leaders at both the city as well as the county level.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 20, 2019 14:05:17 GMT -5
I haven't heard that the area in the footprint of the hospital has had either flooding or sewer problems. Closing the major north-south route in the area is a problem for all emergency vehicles. DOT has a couple years to fix the problem. If one side of the center barrier floods and the other is just wet I just don't believe the river is the problem.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 20, 2019 14:12:27 GMT -5
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 20, 2019 14:18:53 GMT -5
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